Oklahoma Dad Allegedly Murders Son, 13, by Shooting at Truck He Thought Was Stolen

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  1. Galileo

    Galileo Well-Known Member

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    By that lack of logic, speed limits and stop lights are useless since reckless people will be reckless.

    So what? You're the one that is going off topic. How is the training of law enforcement relevant?
     
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    What kind of utter nutjob tries to kill the person stealing their vehicle?

    It's an inanimate object, for gods sake. Truly insane.
     
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    Galileo Well-Known Member

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    Constitutional rights trump everything else? Even human life?
     
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    So do not be an uber utter nutter and shoost people trying to steal your inanimate objects and junk and crockery and the like...... §heesh....
     
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    Your individual Constipational Rights are void and forfeit, if you go trying to kill innocent people.
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    what are "Constipational Rights"?

    please, explain to the audience
     
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    Correct. Without constitutional rights held by the people to limit government overreach, the quality of life that would be had in the united states would not be worth having. A great many lives could be saved if the united states simply adopted the standard of indefinitely confining individuals without need of a trial or legal council beforehand, and without needing to prove that the confinement is justified, but who would actually want to live under such conditions?
     
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    Operation of a motor vehicle on a public right of way is not a constitutional right. It is a privilege granted to the public by government, and only to those who actually meet the qualifications attached to such.

    Beyond that, various restrictions on the operation of motor vehicles exist not because of safety, but for the generation of revenue for the individual cities and the state itself. It is a form of taxation without legally being classified as a tax.

    It is relevant on the basis that it is far more involved and rigorous than anything that could be legally required of the general public, on the basis of them wishing to simply exercise their constitutional rights. Law enforcement is held to a higher standard than private individuals, and their training reflects such, but it is still insufficient when it comes to being familiar with what the law is. As such there is no basis for training requirements for private individuals, as it will never be equal to the standard required for law enforcement, meaning the standard will always be insufficient.
     
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    Says the intentionally underinformed.
     
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    TOG 6 Well-Known Member

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    Fact: There's no reason the incident in question could not have happened in Australia.
     
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    As you cannot support this claim, it means nothing.=
     
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    And here is proof of the Anti N.R.A. sentiment that discredits the Eddie Eagle program, it is not telling children about guns, it is telling them what they should do if they find a gun, lets say a gun dumped after being used in a crime, and children find it, they are told not to touch it, and tell a Police Officer or an Adult.

    And to use a cliche or meme, "If it saves one child's life" it is worth it.

    If it was a Brady campaign effort, or V.P.C. program with the Crime Dog, everybody would love it.

    This is more, Why didn't we think this up ?
    Sour grapes etc.....

    None of the Anti Gun / Anti N.R.A. crowd is ever going to credit N.R.A. with anything positive.
     
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