Omar refuses to condemn stoning of gays

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  1. btthegreat

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    That presupposes that there is some frozen idealized notion of what a 'Muslim' or a 'Christian' or a 'Buddhist' is, and that you of all people, get to do the freezing. these large religions are actually dynamic, changing amoebas that evolve, albeit slowly, alongside the cultures and societies in which they thrive. What it means to be a 'Muslim' or a 'Christian' changes, over the geographic and historic context of centuries. That is how religions stay competitive against competing faiths, and belief systems. Religions must adapt to their surroundings just like anything else. There always be 'conservative' / purist sects or denominations and there will always be 'reformist' /moderate strains, and there will be offshoots which breakaway entirely and others that die off.
     
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    Which definition would fit? https://www.dictionary.com/browse/attack
     
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    Pretty much all of them. Sending a bomb to someone is an attack, no matter how much you want to defend this hero of yours. Whether or not the bombs managed to explode is irrelevant.
     
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    I'm confused. Why do you say that he is my hero?

    It's that they were never SUPPOSED to explode! He designed them that way. It is no different than sending poop in the mail. Unless you think that sending poop would also be an attack?
     
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    I call him your hero because you are bending over backwards trying to defend him and create excuses for him. Even now you are trying to equate IEDs to poop.
     
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    Would you call petrol in a can an "IED?" WITH an ignition mechanism, it most certainly WOULD be an IED, but would it be one without one?
     
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    Act out their threats FOR Trump? Did the MAGA bomber do it specifically FOR Trump?
     
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    Yes, he went after the people who Trump considers his enemies: the media and Democrat politicians.

    Obviously he is not right in the head, and figured he was doing his idol a favor.
     
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    The devices the MAGA-Bomber sent are considered IEDs. I didn't make it up.
     
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    Is the media and ONLY disliked by Trump? Are Democrat politicians ONLY disliked by Trump?
     
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    Perhaps you dont know much about the MAGA bomber. He was obsessed with Trump and wanted to attack Trumps enemies. Trump has made his feelings about the free press clear. He considers them the enemy.
     
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    Islamic splinter groups all seem to be extremely violent. Is that the direction the evolution will take?
     
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    You don't think a threat of death is an attack on someone? By what imagination?
     
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    You'll have to excuse Omar. She comes from a country where the average IQ is 68. People with an IQ of 70 and below are considered retarded. No one should listen to her. Same goes for the Palestinian congresswoman. Actually the same goes for all Muslims. Islam is a religion of mostly low-IQ followers.
    Low IQ people too dumb to understand that they are not qualified to make policy for others are dangerous. Hank Johnson, Maxine Waters, and AOC come to mind. Idiots to the core.
    This is an awful subject and I will be called a racist, but people with low IQ's should now be allowed to run for political office.
     
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    I have yet to see ms Omar provide a statement on the beheading of gays in Saudi Arabia... Chances are she wouldn't disagree with the punishments since they are "perfect" punishments guided by the loving hand of Allah... Ms Omar certainly isn't a friend of the rainbow coalition.
     
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    There is not much to say since Saudis dont behead them.
     
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    Not sure why you would have posted this. There is actual evidence from the Saudis that they did. Like last week.
     
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    I posted it, because it is factually correct. Homosexual acts are against the law in SA, but the penalty is lashes, not beheading.

    But is someone needs to speak against death penalty in Saudi Arabia, or ille treatment of gays, it is the White House and/or State Department. Why should you pick a junior Congress woman to do it?
     
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    How it evolves, will depend on the climate it is expected to thrive in. In other words a successful religion will adapt differently to different cultures. In some cultures a more restrained and moderate form will do better, in another a more radical and aggressive form will have more success. And just like in a nature two 'subspecies' will evolve differently and even compete with each other until one of them learns to specialize.
     
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    I was thinking about "attack" as something which leads to physical harm.
     
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    How do you know that they weren't ALSO enemies of the MAGA bomber and therefore he sent them the bombs for his OWN purposes?
     
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    I think his purpose was to inflict emotional distress, while not a punch in the face it could be considered even more harmful emotionally long term. So I guess you consider that no harm no foul? Similar to April fools?
     
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    Well I believe there are two sub species of Muslim today and their specialty is killing each other because Allah said to.
     
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    Now that is a stretch, both he and Trump have the same enemies. Melania?
     
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    Dude, have you ever HEARD of a Republican before? They don't so much like the media and Democrats. You seriously think that it's only Trump?

    What about her?
     
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