Omicron spreads mostly among vaccinated

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  1. Thedimon

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    If Omicron is indeed a weakened virus, that is the best possible outcome for the world and planet. As we've wanted this thing to get to the point where it doesn't cause deaths or hospitalizations, and the weaker it becomes the less it will cause death and hospitalizations.
     
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    I know.
    I just find it odd that it starts to look like omicron infects vaccinated more than the others.
     
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    It doesn't. Most of the original infections were of those who travelled from abroad. Only those fully vaccinated could travel hence it is no surprise that vaccinated people are mostly those with Omicron variant. Meanwhile, in the UK, one person had died from Omicron, as of few days ago, and he was unvaccinated

    And then we have the original identified cases starting in South where very few are vaccinated
     
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    If only we had a real article...
     
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    But I still think that we should encourage this variant as even those few who are hospitalised stay for a couple of days or so as compared to ten days stay for those with the Delta variant
     
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    I used that source because it has links to data.
     
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    I was wondering if there are any deaths from omicron. Looks like we are already there.
     
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    Ooops, who would think there could be a reasonable explanation for the OP. Here it is. :)
     
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    I don’t mind!
    If there is a reasonable explanation - sure. It just seemed odd to me at first.
    The real good news is that it looks like omicron is as dangerous as common cold, so even if it does end up infecting vaccinated more than not vaccinated, very few will be seriously hurt by it.
     
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    More importantly how many of the vaccinated have ended up in hospital?
     
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    It looks very light.
    IMHO, we should all get it, regardless of the vaccination status. This mild version will act as a vaccine made by the Mother Nature and the subsequent mutations will result in even milder disease.
     
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    :applause::applause::applause:

    I was thinking along the lines of the fact that the vaccinated, being more socially responsible were more likely to be tested but your explanation makes a LOT more sense
     
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    IF it is a “mild version” but bottom line is that this is an endothelial disease and THAT has potential for a lot of harm
     
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    No it just indicates that the strain is resistant to the current vaccines. Perhaps 90% of the people are vaccinated. That would produce results exactly like this. Omicron is a natural and expected strain. The strains arrive from successful mutations. Omicron is successful because it is very contagious allowing good spread for the virus and produces weaker symptoms so that it doesn't kill its host. Dead hosts can't spread a pulmonary virus. It isn't a stretch to conclude that this is all good news because it allows a manageable endemic existence for the virus. I welcome omicron. It is natural selection working as it should.
     
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    Socially responsible? Doesn't sound like anything a virus cares about. Of course, viruses don't care about anything. They just mutate.
     
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    Of course it doesn’t which is why it was foolish to think that it was “targeting” the vaccinated. IF you had READ my post the point I was making was that the vaccinated, having already shown a propensity for social responsibility than the unvaccinated are far more likely to get tested in the first place so the data may well be skewed
     
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    What do you mean? I think you know more than average about healthcare, so I’m just curious.
     
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    OMICRON shows MILD !
    So Pharma & their Government sycophants are pumping up the PANIC !
    and insisting YOU get YOUR EXPERIMENTAL Boosters for which they have
    NO IDEA as to their long term efficacy, or their possible long term effects on
    ...................................................................................... the Human Immune System



    If this decidedly risky GLOBAL EXPERIMENT with improperly tested DRUGS
    ..... goes - :crossbones:SOUTH :crossbones: - ( A distinct possibility that daily becomes more plausible )
    ..... WHO
    and HOW will the people who have forced this EXPERIMENT upon
    ........................... the Human Populations of this Earth be held accountable ?
     
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    Wow. There are still people who don't know the vaccine minimizes the risk of getting sick from it, not from getting infected. It does not prevent viruses from falling in your skin.

    If vast majority of the population are vaccinated, then common sense mandates that most infections are among the vaccinated. If they dont get sick from it, then its irrelevant to them.
     
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    And you used the same "socially responsible" term again. If you had read my post you would know that criticism of that term is what the post was all about.
     
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    EXACTLY ! - And the Endothelial aspects of this Disease have here been shown
    ........................................................ to be the direct result of the "SPIKE PROTEIN" !

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    SARS-CoV-2 Spike Protein Impairs Endothelial Function

    via Downregulation of ACE 2
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8091897/

    SARS-CoV-2 Spike Protein S1-Mediated Endothelial Injury
    and Pro-Inflammatory State Is Amplified by Dihydrotestosterone
    and Prevented by Mineralocorticoid Antagonism

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8617813/

    SARS-CoV-2 Spike Protein Induces Degradation of Junctional
    Proteins That Maintain Endothelial Barrier Integrity

    https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fcvm.2021.687783/full
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    & we should therefore BE WARE and BE AWARE that this same -"SPIKE PROTEIN"-
    here shown to be a TOXIN is being introduced into the body of each and every person
    ................................................................... who partakes of MRNA VACCINE EXPERIMENT
     
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    In Denmark the vaccination rate is around 70%, I believe. The article says 90% with vaccines caught omicron. But it very well could be that vaccinated could be more likely to travel, at least I agree to accept that as a plausible explanation.
     
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    The rate is over 80%, but the point stands that the vaccine is designed to keep you from getting sick. It is not designed to keep viruses from landing on you.
     
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    .................... ? "They don't get sick from it" ?
    ................................ [​IMG]
    Believing every Absurdity YOU are being told by YOUR MSM Authorities
    ............................................................. is a decidedly lousy Survival Technique

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    90% Of All "Covid" Deaths
    Since August Occurred In Fully Vaccinated

    http://45.89.97.6/2021-12-14-90-percent-covid-deaths-since-august-fully-vaccinated.html

    FROM THE ARTICLE

    The corporate media is once again spreading hysteria about the latest new "variant" of
    the Wuhan coronavirus (Covid-19), which has been dubbed "Omicron" (Moronic). What
    the world is not being told, however, is that the only people affected by it are the "fully
    vaccinated." Not only that, but nine out of 10 "covid" deaths since August are fully
    vaccinated deaths
    , meaning almost no unvaccinated people are dying after testing
    "positive." At this point in time, the only plandemic that exists is the one that is spreading
    among people who took the jabs.


    &

    Fully Vaccinated Account For 9 In Every 10 Covid-19 Deaths
    Since August According To Latest Official Data

    https://dailyexpose.uk/2021/12/03/f...nce-august-according-to-latest-official-data/

    FROM THE ARTICLE
    Authorities are slowly tightening the noose again around the necks of the British public
    in response to an alleged new Covid-19 variant dubbed Omicron that is feared may evade
    the current available Covid-19 vaccines. The problem with this is official data shows the
    alleged Delta variant has been evading the Covid-19 vaccines for at least the 3 past months,
    because since August 2021 the fully vaccinated have accounted for 9 in every 10, Covid-19 deaths.

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