Omicron spreads mostly among vaccinated

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  1. Eadora

    Eadora Well-Known Member

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    I don't have to contrive anything. YOU manage to do that YOURSELF :)
    YOU use Fauci's Dictates & MSM sewage, while the Condor uses
    ............................................................................................ John Hopkins

    For if YOU ascribe to Dr. Fauci's brand of science & its carved in stone Dictums,
    then YOU preclude any SCIENCE that might contradict or question his DOCTRINE
    ........................ of Vaccine Vaccine VACCINE & Booster Booster BOOSTER

    For this is the type 'medical science' & 'expertise' that Dr. Fauci practices.
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    That is a smart thing to do as long as the medical authorities aren't government employees who must ignore the science and offer up political positions. There are all kinds of private sector doctors available who use the same empirical data to refute what comes from NIH and CDC. Pay attention to them. They actually practice medicine.
     
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    Natty Bumpo Well-Known Member

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    As I noted, I respect the consensus of actual medical experts based upon the empirical data that they are constantly compiling, analyzing, modifying, and revising as needed far more than your media entertainers spouting ideological dogma.

    https://www.cdc.gov/

    In what other scientific disciplines do you kowtow to your qualification-free opinion-peddlers? Is Alex Jones your authority on botany? Michael Savage your go-to guy for astrophysics? Sean Hannity your proctological master?
     
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  4. Natty Bumpo

    Natty Bumpo Well-Known Member

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    I'll continue to respect qualified experts whose understanding is based upon objective assessment of empirical data over your ideologically-dogmatic entertainers.

    Are you in a tizzy because the Cry Baby Loser is now parroting Dr Fauci regarding vaccines and boosters?
     
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    Natty Bumpo Well-Known Member

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    Medical science, facilitated by technological innovation and the consequent improved data sharing and analysis has advanced to a level once unimagined, and, since it is constantly modified and revised based upon ever-ongoing data compilation, reflects the current state of the art.

    Alternative metrics abound, of course.

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    Well, my Uncle Beezer's bunion
    forecasted the kudzu blight of '36!"
     
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    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

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    Do you prefer the experts in the pocket of the pharmaceutical industry, or the experts who speak the truth and get censored by the criminal media?

    I prefer the latter.
     
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    Natty Bumpo Well-Known Member

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    How do you determine what is "the truth"?

    Do you prefer fellow ideologues to credentialed experts as your sources of "truth"?

    Who, specifically, are your "experts who speak the truth"?

    Is this currently one of them?
    Does it disturb you that these instances of sensible, scientifically-validated advice echo those of those of Dr. Anthony Fauci?
     

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    Can't be true since it would make vaccination completely senseless.
     
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    FAKE CLAIM #1
    These were the links you provided for your so called medical experts with your magical empirical data
    Every single one of your provisions is your own media entertainers spouting ideological dogma.
    The Daily Item
    Urban Milwakuee
    MSN
    Quartz
    Yahoo news
    Channel 4 New York
    Houston Chronicle
    MSNBC
    CBS News
    NPR


    FAKE CLAIM #2
    I provided you the actual results OF REAL Covid studies. Not your media tripe you keep posting over and over.
    I doubt you would know the difference since you haven't provided a single science driven post since you have been here.

    Here are the links I provided
    1. Rockefeller University who researches the immune response to SARS-CoV-2
    2. The Israeli study, conducted in one of the most highly COVID-19–vaccinated countries in the world, with examined medical records of millions of Israelis, charting their infections, symptoms, and hospitalizations
    3. John Hopkins research Covid
    4. Immunology researcher at Danderyd Hospital
    5. The Karolinska Institute who studies the immune responses to SARS-CoV-2
    6. Maccabi Healthcare Services
    7. Nussenzweig’s groups published data

    And the research institutes have all come to the same conclusions
    1. Pre infected have much better immunity than the Covid shot
    2. Vaccinated individuals are 13 times higher rate of hospitalization than pre infected
    3. Vaccinated individuals are 20 time higher rate for re infection than pre infected

    Now when you learn he difference between Media tripe and actual medical studies, post one.
    Until then, the continued regurgitation of media claims you keep using clearly show you have no ability to confront or dispute real data hosted by real science.
     
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  10. Natty Bumpo

    Natty Bumpo Well-Known Member

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    Again,

    Who, specifically, are your "experts who speak the truth"?

    Is this currently one of them?
     
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  11. Condor060

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    Must be a reading comprehension thing.
    1. Rockefeller University who researches the immune response to SARS-CoV-2
    2. The Israeli study, conducted in one of the most highly COVID-19–vaccinated countries in the world, with examined medical records of millions of Israelis, charting their infections, symptoms, and hospitalizations
    3. John Hopkins research Covid
    4. Immunology researcher at Danderyd Hospital
    5. The Karolinska Institute who studies the immune responses to SARS-CoV-2
    6. Maccabi Healthcare Services
    7. Nussenzweig’s groups published data


    Did I list Trump
    Did I mention Trump
    Did I provide you with anything that has to do with Trump
    So now you're back to your Trummpy postings.
    Is this your default go to post now when you've been cornered posting your media tripe.
    You didn;t dispute a single claim I made about your media Tripe postings
    (Which means you couldn't so its off to your Trummpyisms again)
    And you didn't dispute the actual science centers I posted)
    (Which means you couldn't so its off to your Trummpyisms again)

    So its pretty clear who is regurgitating fake media claims and they are as fake as posting pictures of Trump every time you get your feelings hurt over being called out for the garbage you are pushing.
     
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  12. Natty Bumpo

    Natty Bumpo Well-Known Member

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    No. I asked you simple, straightforward questions:

    Again,

    Who, specifically, are your "experts who speak the truth"?

    Is this currently one of them?

    Meanwhile, the dispute between public heath experts and ideological entertainers regarding public health persists:
     
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  13. Condor060

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    Did I list Trump as one of them?
    Nope
    So why would you ask?

    So you can use your Trummpy post to run from the actual information I posted you can't dispute.

    This is all you got?
    This is the best you have?
    This is you responding to the actual science I provided?
    We all wonder what that picture does for you since you copy and paste it over and over in responses that have nothing to do with the thread or and response anyone post.
     
  14. Condor060

    Condor060 Banned Donor

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    So when someone ask you
    Do you prefer the experts in the pocket of the pharmaceutical industry, or the experts who speak the truth and get censored by the criminal media?

    You post this?
     
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    When I posted the information of the science based studies for you to research, you posted this?

     
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    When I caught you posting fake media claims trying to claim them as science you posted this

    I guess we are all seeing a pattern here, huh
     
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    When I provided you with a list of Government and CDC false claims you posted this
    And not one single person discussed Trump.
    Not one single person used Trump as a reference for anything

    The only person in this thread using Trump IS YOU
    Is this all you have now?
    Is this the best you can muster now?

    Your Trump obsession is really over the top. Pretty scary.
     
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    Sure got quiet in here all of a sudden.
    Who'd a thunk :roflol:

     
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    Trump Obsession Psychosis
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    " There's never been anything like it . That I can tell you . "
     
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    Please don't get in a tizzy because I asked you about your respecting Trump's headline pronouncements.

    You seem unwilling to share the identities of those you regard as your trusted authorities in health science, and I solicited your reaction to his advice.

    If you refuse to comment on Trump's promotion of vaccinations and boosters, and have no trusted medical authorities that you can cite, so be it.
     
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    So according to you
    These are not recognized by you as medical authorities.
    1. Rockefeller University who researches the immune response to SARS-CoV-2
    2. The Israeli study, conducted in one of the most highly COVID-19–vaccinated countries in the world, with examined medical records of millions of Israelis, charting their infections, symptoms, and hospitalizations
    3. John Hopkins research Covid
    4. Immunology researcher at Danderyd Hospital
    5. The Karolinska Institute who studies the immune responses to SARS-CoV-2
    6. Maccabi Healthcare Services
    7. Nussenzweig’s groups published data


    But according to you, these are recognized by you as medical authorities
    The Daily Item
    Urban Milwakuee
    MSN
    Quartz
    Yahoo news
    Channel 4 New York
    Houston Chronicle
    MSNBC
    CBS News
    NPR
    And Trump


    Thank you for clearing that up for everyone.

    We never knew you were such a devoted Trump supporter?
     
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    How do I determine what is the truth?

    Well, it takes time and research. Sometimes it's most difficult to discover.

    I start by considering the statements of known liars. I automatically am highly skeptical of ANY statement from ANY person known to be dishonest in previous statements.

    These days I consider which individuals are censored by TPTB. They are likely being censored because they are telling the truth.

    It's a process Natty. It's an acquired skill.
     
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    This is simply trolling at this point, it should be a board violation.
     
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    Citing a former President expressing the consensus of public health professionals, and inquiring regarding the identity of undisclosed sources of conflicting information should be a "board violation"?

    How so?

    The World Health Organization on Tuesday said the Covid omicron variant can result in life-threatening illness for the unvaccinated, the elderly and people with underlying conditions.

    Dr. Mike Ryan, director of the WHO’s health emergencies program, said unvaccinated people face a higher risk that an omicron infection will make them severely sick and and possibly even kill them.


    “Omicron still represents a massive threat to their life and a massive threat to their health,” Ryan said of the unvaccinated during a Q&A livestreamed Tuesday on the WHO’s social media channels.

    Ryan said vaccinated people, on the other hand, generally experience mild illness if they get a breakthrough infection.


    https://www.cnbc.com/2022/01/11/who...vaccinated-elderly-underlying-conditions.html
     
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    I recognize that experienced professionals in the fields of public health, virology, and epidemiology are far more qualified than are ideological media entertainers concerning Covid, and when the pros arrive at a consensus regarding the effectiveness of vaccinations and booster shots (as well as masking, manual hygiene, and avoidance of large social gatherings), I accept their informed conclusion without imposing my irrelevant biases and prejudices upon them - especially when their consensus is affirmed by the statistical reality of a much higher rate of icu confinements and deaths occurring among the unvaccinated.

    Can you specifically name any of your alternative sources that cause you to take an aberrant view?
     
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