On for the Commies

What Venezuelans think about Socialism?

But we know, we know it'll be different this time, we've heard that one before.

Resist the Commies and laugh at them when they try to pretend that they're not!

 

And we know that even in the event they did succeed, they'd turn around and shoot themselves in the foot and go global, like Sweden.

Because if everything's free, why not bring everyone else in the developing world to join the picnic?

Seriously, the typical socialist crowd has no common sense.

 

Anti-socialism is very valuable. It shows a lack of economic insight, helping us appreciate how folk become willing slaves to class-based authoritarianism.

Imagine if folk held the likes of the US to count for their manipulation? No more regime change, no more misery created by deliberately destabilising regions.

 

And here's Commie

 

Where's the lie?
How much Islamic terrorism was there before the West started interfering in the ME?
How many socialist countries have had their economies shafted by sanctions?

 

I'm very anti Bush and Tony Blair, there was a lot of Islamic terrorism in the 80's and 90's just not in the Western world. 9/11 changed all that and the response in Iraq just made things a 1000 times worse.

I protested the war a million people in London, 10 times the anti Trump rally.

 

Totally on point OP since we all know that when people talk about socialist policies in the United States, they are want to mirror Venezuela and of course China and the Soviet Union. They want 500% socialism. They want to socialism so hard that other socialists are like "Woa, they totally went for the double-triple-super-mega-heavy-ultra socialism. Extreme dude!"

Then, at the annual Socialeebrum(the awards show for socialists), America will win top prize and the winners will use the prize money to build waffle factories in every county of every state. But only the buildings, not the equipment. For that we'll need double-triple-super-mega-heavy-ultra-radical-atomic-supersized-maximum-strength socialism. Which we all know is the real goal.

Oh, shoot. I was just making a bunch of nonsense up and pretending I was making a point. Well, guess that's just par for the course.

 

9/11 was a direct result of American troops stationed in Saudi Arabia.
No Gulf War - no 9/11.
No Communism necessary.

 

Are you talking Churchill's gassings in Iraq in 1920?

 

Venezuelan hate socialism?

Then why are some of them along with Trump supporting SOCIALIST Guaido ?

 

No it wasn't. Cheney did lie to Fahd about how they would leave KSA as soon as the Gulf War was over (they stayed 13 years) But, the Saudis have always liked Americans and didn't object to the US troops.

9-11 was about Israel. The Pentagon knew it. The diplomats knew it and everyone in the oil business knew it.

 

LOLOL.. Yep Guaido is also a socialist.

 

Certainly didn't help with the image of the West in the minds of those in the ME.
Carving up countries and placing puppet governments in charge in order to control who gets to profit from the oil reserves didn't help either.

 

Islamic terrorism began in 635 A.D. when the Islamic Jihad rode out of the desert and took the cosmopolitan city of Damascus. It continued until 1683 when the Islamic Jihad laid siege to Vienna, but failed to take it, just as they had failed to take Vienna in 1529. The West achieved advantages in technology which have lasted until recently. But now Islamic terrorism is back bringing death, beheadings, suffering, and hell forever.

 

But he might be a reasonable socialist. Maduro is not.

 

So you don't think Bin Laden was telling the truth when he said that was why he attacked Americans all over the globe?

 

I agree. I was against Bush's Iraq war and leftists cheered me at the time on political forums. I remained against war as Obama replaced Bush and himself became a total warmonger at the drop of an excuse and leftists reviled me.

I still recall when Cindy Sheehan was the Left's anti-war darling in the United States during the Bush era and how the Left immediately dropped her like a hot potato when it turned out that Obama was going to be a new version of warmonger Bush. Cindy Sheehan? Cindy Sheehan . . . who?

 

Did OBL attack Americans all over the globe?

OBL attacked the US because of our blind support of Israel.. so yes he was telling the truth. He was a black sheep and unquestionably a religious nut, but he also wanted to start a war between the West and all Muslims.. His strategy has been fairly successful wouldn't you say?

Remember that the Saudi revoked his citizenship and declared AQ a terrorist organization in 1994.

 

So by your logic European colonisation of land on every continent was a holy war raged by the Christian West?

 

European Western culture was there first, descending from Athens, Rome, and Jerusalem -- Aristotle, Cicero, and Moses. Islam came much, much later -- in the 7th century. Islam was the aggressor.

 

From Jerusalem? From Moses?

Have you read the Treaty of Omar? The Muslims invited the Jews to come back to Jerusalem.

 

It's interesting how, even though socially progressive atheism is diametrically opposed to political Islam, they still have so much in common.

Let's see... totalitarianism, a need to transform the societies around them, hatred against the West and all of its cultural legacies...
Guess it's not much surprise they've formed a political marriage of convenience... sort of like the Nazis and the Soviets at the outset of WW2 before things turned ugly.

 

the 1992 Yemen Hotel Bombings.
1993, the World Trade Center was bombed for the first time
1995, a car bomb exploded at a facility in Riyahd
1998 the bombings of the U.S. embassies in Niarobi, Kenya, and Dar es Salaam Tanzania,
October 2000 the USS Cole bombing,

Full list here
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_al-Qaeda_attacks

 

It goes all the way back the Barbary Pirates.
That's why in the Marine's Hymn they sing the line: "From the Halls of Montezuma to the shores of Tripoli..."

Terrorism against the United States goes all the way back to 1785, when U.S. merchant ships in the Medditerranean were taken captive and the crews enslaved.

 

What about the colonisation by force of the Americas, Africa, India and Australasia?
Were they holy wars or is colonisation only a holy war when Muslims do it?