On the Threshold of Renewable Energy Chaos

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  1. Jack Hays

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    Germany’s Windexit…Old Wind Turbines Dismantled Without Replacement…Looming “Massive Power Outage”?
    By P Gosselin on 7. April 2021

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    Looming “massive power outage”?

    Another signal that the German Energiewende (transition to green energies) is not working out are actions and comments recently coming from the German Ministry of Food and Agriculture, as reported 2 days ago in a newspaper: (Hat-tip: Misaki – im Widerstand)

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    “Emergency plan for the food supply. Berlin. The Federal Government and the states have agreed on an emergency plan for securing the food supply, according to information from Federal agriculture Minister Julai Klöckner (CDU). as an example for a supply crisis she named a ‘massive power outage”, she told in an interview with this newspaper.”

    Germans scale back on wind energy

    The German government loves to talk about the importance of green energies, but when it comes to their expansion, it is in fact doing the opposite: Old wind turbines are being removed without being replaced by new generation turbines.

    Perhaps it’s beginning dawn on the German government that especially wind and solar energy just aren’t working out, and so they have massively scaled back subsidies with the aim of scaling them back. . . .
     
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    Seems you are losing the debate on CO2-climate change.

    Here are Brian Deese's thoughts on the matter (he's Biden's chief economic adviser):

    Opinion | The Best Explanation of Biden’s Thinking I’ve Heard - The New York Times (nytimes.com)

    "What's changed my mind (since 2009)? A couple of things. Both the evidence and my understanding of the impact of climate change have affected my view of the importance of building the inevitable and now irreversible changes that increasing global average temperatures are having on our society into everything we’re doing. That’s No. 1."

    Now no doubt Deese will want a carbon tax or something stupid like that, which orthodox mainstream flat-earth economists will prescribe to "pay for" the necessary infrastructure build-out, but nevertheless the argument is just about done and dusted, all around the world.

    Re "cost", from your linked 'guest blogger':

    "With California already having the highest cost of fuels in the country, the wealthy and middle class have more tolerance for expensive energy, but poverty kills and having legislatures pass legislation making energy more expensive on the less fortunate, will worsen poverty."

    Time to educate yourself re alternative methods of money creation in central banks, like the Fed reserve. The correct question is: does the nation have the resources and productive capacity to build the necessary infrastructure while closing the fossil industry?

    Answer: of course it does. The GND funded by utilizing the Fed's currency issuing capacity, will ERADICATE poverty in the country.
     
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    Sorry, but I don't engage with fantasists. Good luck in your future endeavors.
    How Climate Change Pseudoscience Became Publicly Accepted
     
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    You don't engage with the president's chief economic adviser?

    Actually we both have a problem with Deese's influence on the president; you lose the climate change debate, i lose the financing debate, but I think I will win in the end as renewables become cheaper than fossils, and the political demands to deal with poverty and inequality become irresistable.
     
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    How could he, when actual physical climate events constantly prove him right?
    IOW, he has drunk the Kool-Aid.
    Right: the facts that
    1. increasing atmospheric CO2 has at most a modest effect on global temperature;
    2. CO2 is broadly beneficial to humanity because of its fertilization effect; and
    3. to the extent that it warms the earth, that is also beneficial
    are becoming more obtrusive and indisputable every day. People can see with their own eyes that the apocalyptic prognostications have all been falsified, and they are getting fed up with the constant lying and media-driven hype like Greta Thunberg.
    Of course, once solar becomes cheaper than fossil and/or people get over their irrational fear of nuclear.
    Poverty in advanced capitalist economies is not caused by a lack of currency but by massive, systematic, institutionalized, and wholly gratuitous injustice. If you think central banks or government mints can eliminate that by issuing currency, you are delusional.
     
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    The GND is in reality a proposal for an above poverty Job Guarantee** (including lots of high paying green economy jobs in research and engineering) , ie, an elected government's policy choice funded by the treasury and reserve bank. I didn't think you were an economic 'flat-earther'.

    **the JG represents a massive step toward eliminating institutional injustice.
     
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    You can't lift people above poverty by giving them an above poverty job guarantee because landowners will just charge them that much more for permission to access a guaranteed "above poverty" job. We know that beyond any doubt because they are already doing it: minimum wage is already enough to afford a perfectly decent lifestyle, except that landowners charge everyone full market value just for permission to earn it. The MMT + JG proponents, including you, simply haven't understood the Henry George Theorem: as long as the poor's rights to liberty are owned by landowners, whatever you try to give them, their landlords will just take.
    No it doesn't. It's nothing but a distraction from the real institutional injustice: privilege, especially landowner privilege.
     
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    Making people believe nonsense: The imaginary decline of fossil fuels
    Red-pill time
    Basic facts, details, accuracy, buried under the weight of propaganda.

    Here’s a lost fact: most of the world likes fossil fuels and wants even more of it.

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    The world is using more fossil fuels than ever.

    And this is not exactly a new trend — starting in 1765 or so. Yet despite that, nine out of ten Australians speak as though they have been trained by a renewable energy ad bureau. And in a sense they have.

    A few years ago, 88% of Australians would say that fossil fuels are in decline around the world and we must invest in “alternatives”. So nine out of ten people are just wrong. Despite all that connectivity (or possibly because of it) nine out of ten people know something that is not true and has never been true during their entire lives. . . .
     

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