One huge point against obamacare

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  1. RodB

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    Correction: getting an Obamacare Exchange subsidy is not the same as free.
     
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    What "rest" are you referring to?
     
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    Oops!
     
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    More wingnut radio talking points?

    If you are referring to those who expected us to pay for their ER expenses whenever they needed healthcare, those are far less than what the fake wingnut media apparently wants you to believe.
     
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    In a nutshell, paying skyrocketing premiums to insurance companies with taxpayer's money.

    We have millions of homeless people. Would you support buying them all apartments with taxpayers' money? Cause that is precisely what Obamacare does with regards to health coverage.
     
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    Uhm.becsuse it was true?
     
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    Ah, finally, here is one of the dog whistle responses from the Left that I was waiting for. As soon as Rush Limbaugh is mentioned, the Lefties start drooling like Pavlov's dogs hearing the bell. "Rush is an entertainer." "Rush did drugs." "Rush is a liar." "Mentally unstable." "Illegal election." "Golf." "RUSSIA."

    Here, doggy, doggy, doggy. TWEET! TWEET!

    Can't the Left come up with anything real?
     
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    Typical Rush. Trying to scare families who can't afford to pay $50K a year in healthcare by bringing up a family that can.

    And this is where you guys get your "news"
     
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  9. REALITY CHUCK

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    DOG WHISTLE! Standard Left-wing, knee-jerk, programmed response to any mention of Rush Limbaugh.

    He was just citing an example. It is not necessarily what is going on all over. People that listen to Rush have the intellectual capacity to know that.
     
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    I could not agree more. I have always held that Insurance companies are the weak link in Obamacare. There are ways to fix that, but I doubt Trump would adopt them.

    Ok.. You need to make up your mind. First you asked this implying that Obamacare was free. When I responded that it wasn't, you responded acknowledging the fact. And now you seem to go back to the inaccurate assumption that it's free.

    I would definitely support buying apartments and houses for homeless people who are then required to pay for them at low or no interest. During the Bush crisis there was a bill in Congress to buy some of the houses and apartment buildings that were abandoned because their owners were upside down on their loans. And then use them this way. But it went nowhere.

    But, if you decide to respond to this, please make sure you are clear about your own position: obamacare is not free. As is, I could elaborate on my response, but it would contain a lot of "ifs" attempting to interpret what you are implying. The housing problem is different from healthcare. So solutions are different.
     
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    We simply cannot agree on this.

    I'm not denigrating mental health coverage. I'm saying it's a waste to include that in a policy for people like myself who are 55 and have never needed it and will never need it. I shouldn't be forced to pay for it. That's like forcing an elderly gay couple to pay for fertility treatments.
     
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    What nonsense you now want to revise history? Their was millions of people kicked off their health insurance..
     
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    Get real illegals are bankrupting hospitals, ya know Obama care don't cover them and no I am talking about the millions who got kicked off there health insurance because of Obama care
     
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    More likely because you made it up.
     
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    Talk about a revisionist , it was in the news for a year and now your saying I am making it up?



    Even biased fact Check. Org Admits it



    It’s true that insurance companies discontinued health plans that had covered millions of people who had bought them directly rather than through an employer. That’s because those plans didn’t meet the coverage standards of the new law.
     
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    An example of a family who can pay $50K a year which leads you to ask about families who can't.

    Apparently you didn't, because you fell for it.
     
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    Lol

    1. Obamacare is free/cheap for recipients, costs trillions to the taxpayer, the insurance industry pockets the money

    2. The homeless can't afford to pay back the cost of their residence, with or without interest, that's why they are homeless. The uninsured can't pay back Obamacare premiums, that's why they are uninsured duh

    3. Obamacare utterly failed to rein in skyrocketing healthcare cost and that's why it was DOA

    4. Buying insurance fir uninsured with taxpayers' money is as dumb as buying houses for the homeless with taxpayers money. Without solving the underlying problems it solves nothing and screws the taxpayer
     
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    Ah, where did I say that that family could afford it? In fact, I believe the implication was that they could not. Are you seeing things that aren't there?

    I fell for what? You have proof it isn't true? I just quoted something from a person that I believe does his research and tells the truth. The opinion that Rush lies about everything is only Left-wing, dog whistle propaganda.
     
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    They should keep the good things about obama care and scrap the rest. It’s a mess having the actual insurance. Trump is right to short the premiums. For every good story about obama care there is 10 where it sucks.
     
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    Which means you make well above the 450% of the federal poverty level.

    So why are you begrudging those that aren't?
     
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    Let them work for it. No one gave me anything. I didn't inherit one cent.
     
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    You do realize that a large percentage of Americans are only 1 paycheck away from complete homelessness?
     
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    As am I.
     
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    Oh.... I see. So you're talking BS. Neither of those things is true. Illegals have little impact on healthcare costs, annobody got "kicked off" because of obamacare

    https://khn.org/news/study-illegal-immigration-doesnt-cause-overuse-of-health-care/
     
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    So you know you'll never need mental health coverage? And only including it for people who will immediately need it makes the cost for it skyrocket
     
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