Only 7 Black Students Got Into N.Y.’s Most Selective High School, Out of 895 Spots

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  1. arborville

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    There's nothing wrong with trying to get the best education for your kids but there are broken families, drunks and people who use bad in language in affluent and less diverse families, also. The high divorce rate affects families at all income levels.

     
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    The divorce rate is declining.
     
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    Yes. Billionaires running around giving gazillions to lobbyists is obscene. Tax their income and their wealth. Take the money that's going to be bid on a Monet and give it to my school. God knows we can put it to better use.

    We're in a new gilded age, and like the one before, there is a large group of poor people who have been gaslighted to believe that if we make things easier for the rich (say, by cutting their taxes), it will trickle down to the little guy. And the funniest thing is they think a New York billionaire, who swindled little guys with a fake university, who's cheated on every wife, who's own lawyer has implicated him in crimes, will be their champion. People never cease to amaze me.
     
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  4. Pred

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    Oh I know. Family problems effect everyone. But for the most part, families with money and better education, stick together more often than low income, uneducated couples.
     
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    TRFjr Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Culture is the problem
    school and academic achievement isn't a priority within the black community until you change that culture no matter the amount of effort and money thrown at the problem it will be a waste
     
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    5 hours a night is very unhealthy lifestyle. So your demand is just unreasonable.
     
  7. notme

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    To demand a child only gets tutored on a sunday, will still put the child in a disadvantage of other children.
     
  8. notme

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    It's not a choice a child is able to pick, obviously.
     
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    So what. A child is unable to have that choice.
    I sourced that it's not good.
     
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    I really hope you're not suggesting that the money itself is what makes people more stable?

    Hollywood alone demonstrates how wrong that thinking is. And relatively poor, traditional, rural areas demonstrate just the opposite.
     
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    Not your problem. That's what some of these parents choose to do, rather than leave their kids' future to the winds. They know it's only for a few years.
     
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    I said the PARENTS can catch up on sleep on Sundays.
     
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    Make the better choices before you starting making children. It's not rocket science.
     
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    We're not talking about what the CHILD needs to do to, we're talking about what PARENTS need to do.

    And as for 'not good', all reasonable parents make sacrifices. Sleep is often the first thing to go. Don't like it? Buy a goldfish.
     
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    A child still can not pick to have 2 parents staying together, buddy.
    This proves that children needs to have this extra benefit when coming from such a social economical background.
    Again, it's very unhealthy and unreasonable.
    This proves that children needs to have this extra benefit when coming from such a social economical background.
    https://www.sleepfoundation.org/articles/you-cant-catch-sleep
    The bottom line is that there is no real way to recoup lost sleep.

    You really do not know anything. lol
     
  16. Pred

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    No. Never implied it. But on average, money and education does make for a more stable home. Its not an opinion. Its fact. We're talking averages. Its documented statistics. See below. Notice a trend? Money, education, CULTURE are a factor and sadly one particular race suffers in all these areas. No one is making this up just for kicks. Considering the fatherless epidemic in the black community...its just staggering and it all makes sense once you just look at it. CULTURE has to change and that change has to come from within that culture.

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    The stats don't say anything at all about cause. And I would argue (most strongly) that the cause of the money is the same as the cause of the marital health. Responsibility, stability, productivity, maturity, etc.
     
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    What cause are you looking for? I think its all linked. Educated people are generally more stable, responsible, productive, ect, which leads to more money, and on and on. Outliers and exceptions aren't the rule, since there are plenty of poor people married forever and rich people who get divorced in a year. But we're talking averages here.
     
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    This is a conversation about PARENTAL responsibility for the educational outcomes of their children. Every one of us, long before becoming parents, has decisions to make in relation to any potential future children.

    Are you actually interested in improvement, or are you only really interested in a momentary salve (which is all you'll be doing by trying to help today's kids ... most of whom it's already too late for)? Because it seems to me that you want to run around putting band aids on the symptoms (poorly educated kids), instead of curing the actual cause.
     
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    Educated people are stable, responsible, productive etc BEFORE being educated. Those personal qualities are needed to BECOME educated. That's my point. It ALL comes from that source. And that source comes from the way we're parented .. not from money. The Third World is full of poor people who create stable children who remain married, for example. They are not outliers or exceptions, they are the standard. It has nothing whatsoever to do with money.
     
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    This is a conversation about children who from low social economical classes should be offered a seat at such high schools when they just missed the criteria. Because it shows they are smart enough, it's just the background that makes them preform less, while they have no choice in how their background became to be.
     
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    It has a lot to do with money. Not earning enough causes stress, problems and frictions in your relationship.
     
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    So you want to leave equity and access behind, and engage in exceptions. Just like all of those parents who bribe or cajole or worm their kids into schools they could have qualified for if their parents hadn't been so lazy. And you think that's GOOD?
     
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    Sure. But it's your own personal dysfunctions that keep you poor. It all comes back to the source.
     
  25. Pred

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    I don't think anyone has said money keeps people together. But it does make it easier. Money makes life easier and truly does provide some happiness(more for some than others). The funny thing about money is, you can ALWAYS give it away if it doesn't make you happy=)
     

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