'Only God can save us': Yemen blockade may cause world's largest famine in decades

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  1. alexa

    alexa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yemen is experiencing mass starvation. It has been bad for the last two years while she has been bombed. Little needed has got through and she depends on the outside for almost all her food. Due to the destruction and lack of ability to sanitise things she is now experiencing on top of the starvation a cholera epidemic and then to top it off a few days ago Saudi Arabia cut off all links so that now no help and no medicine can get through.for what small amount of help they can still give


    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...ne-in-yemen-as-saudi-arabia-tightens-blockade

    any ideas on what can be done to help what people are calling a genocide.?
     
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    It's supported by the west. Hence it's not genocide.
     
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    Hezbollah armed the Houthi rebels in retaliation of Saudi Arabia's funding of ISIS, in my opinion both Iran and Saudi Arabia is responsible for this humanitarian crisis. Lebanon is next, change Yemen to Lebanon in this article and fast forward to one year from now.

    The only thing that will stop this is if one side lose.... Saudi Arabia or Iran
     
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    Unsurprising that you support Iranian supported terrorists in Yemen given you also support Iranian supported terrorists in Palestine.
     
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    alexa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    We are talking about mass starvation being caused by interference in a civil war. The UN has already condemned Saudi Arabia for its cruel treatment of the children there and for the Policy it is carrying out now of mass starvation. The US is certainly encouraging this and is being aided by both ISIS and Al Qaeda on the ground. Interesting to know the people on this forum who support a deliberate policy of genocide. You are the lowest dregs of humanity. We thought we had got rid of the Western people supporting genocide in '45 but here you come again with your vile ISIS and Alqaeda to help you. Disgusting,
     
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  6. Gilos

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    "supported by the west" ? why ? because the west didnt dive into another Sunni- Shia war ? oh silly me, you just meant the US-Saud didnt simply surrender to Russia-Iran.
     
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    The US is a somewhat reluctant participant Gilos. At least when Obama was in power he stopped the Sauds from doing what they have done now which is to cut of all access so that no food or medical supplies or anything else can be brought in to help civilians.

    https://www.pri.org/stories/2017-10...stop-trump-supporting-saudi-arabias-war-yemen
     
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    This is what happens when over-population is allowed to flourish unhindered - mass starvation in crop failures, and mass death in conditions of drought. I now confidently expect Saint Bob of Geldof to have another vanity Feed the World bread-and-circuses shindig, which of course will facilitate even more over-population, ipso facto even more deaths in future crop failures and droughts. :wall: The stupidity of mankind never ceases to amaze me.
     
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    alexa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Here is a quick, rough background to the conflict.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-29319423

    from the above

     
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    Its a war between Iran and Saudia, why is the best option to surrender to Iran again ? because that's why the UK Muslims say ?
     
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    No, I would not think that is so at all although I agree that what this is about is the Saudi/Iran power dispute. I do however suspect that that is why the US gave the Saud's support originally. I think it was around the time they were feeling well fed up with the US over Syria.
     
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    Why choose Iran over Sauds ? and to be clear by choosing you mean to take an active part - if not go to war - against the Sauds, Iran curses the US every day, why pick them over Saud ?
     
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    They dont need the American president clapping for them to go to war, neither does Israel BTW, indipendant countries do as chose, there was no coalition building in Yemen and its a proxy war in any case...

    The "West" got nothing to do with approving anything in this war, only accusation that can be is that it DIDNT intervene.
     
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    Em no I am getting a bit lost here. The US chose to support the Sauds in their attack against the rebels in the civil war in Yemen. The US has built up a relationship with the Sauds for a very long time. I am only going by memory here but I remember the Saud's being well pissed off at the US not bombing Syria after the first chemical weapons were found. There seemed to be some murmurings on the ground that the Gulf States may change their allegiance to Russia. I think the US just agreed to support Saudi Arabia and the Gulf States in their interference in the Yemen civil war to show they were on the side of the Saud's. Nothing here about bombing Iran or Saudi Arabia.
     
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    The US has been involved. Was that not where US servicemen were killed at the beginning of Trumps Presidency? However looking at things The US wants out - maybe not Trump but most of them. They should never have become part of this interference in another countries civil war.
     
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    Basically the US has been supporting the Saud's doing war crimes in Yemen. I know towards the end of his Presidency Obama was thinking they should withdraw.

    Here is another example of why Politicians make their decisions to support or not support war
    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...iry-united-nations-arms-weapons-a7971516.html

    Britain is supplying the Saud's with weapons with which it is attacking Yemen. Despite quite a lot of work trying to get this stopped it is still going on so the UK is itself involved in that way - good for trade and jobs.
     
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    Its the rebels that attacked the regime and if you count selling arms as support then the rebels are supported by Iran and Russia, now why should US support Iran on this ?
     
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    Im still trying to understand what creteria you use to support and claim Iran-Rebels are the "good" side and US-UK-Saud are the "bad" side
     
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    I never said the US should support Iran. I know that in the beginning Iran was hardly giving any help. I would say more fear of the Saud's or wanting the whole ME to be run by their extremists. If you are saying that Iran and Russia are supplying the rebels in Yemen then they are doing a pretty poor job because they are defenceless against the Saud's. Al Qaeda are proud to boast once again about being on the US side. ISIS has also been able to gain a hold.

    I think you are looking at something other than the issue, The issue is that Yemen is cut off from the world, there is mass starvation and cholera going on there and the Saud's have closed all of the routes by which one can get into Yemen, something Obama made sure did not happen as that is a quick route to genocide
     
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    So is Russia by selling arms to Iran, your criticsm is completly one sided, not a whisper on the other side from you, is that objectivness ?
     
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    You are losing me. This thread is on the mass starvation and cholera attack in Yemen which can no longer get any help due to Saudi Arabi cutting off all routes in. This is a scene for genocide. You may be trying to sideline things off topic. I had not realised you were involved in some sort of attempt at set up. However that is not what the situation is on and yes I did answer your questions so take your insults and put them in the next bomb you use to kill the babies of Gaza. Wow, so easy to see why you would be supporting the wanton killing of children.
     
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    The war goes on and on so they are not doing that bad, and I think both Iran and the Sauds want dominance, I admit I was surprised to learn these last months just how much infl
    Who can trust the words of agents of chaos ?
    Perhaps a cease fire can be worked out, fly drones to drop aid, I dont think anyone denies the humanitarian crisis.
     
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    From the OP article
    As the title says US Lawmakers want the US part in this stopped

    https://www.pri.org/stories/2017-10...stop-trump-supporting-saudi-arabias-war-yemen

    Otherwise the US is going to be seen as complicit in Genocide.
     
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    No, you do speak of starvation but you do it by blaiming the US and the Sauds, you try to create some dogma that "Stop starvation = stop US and Saudia", not the war, just Saud forces, that's why I asked.

    I'm making bombs to kill children and I support genocide - is that your answer ?
     
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    They are fighting on the Saud's side. They put out a statement the other day that they were happy to be on the Trump team again. Yes, being cheecky but one of the first things I remember reading about the Saud's when they began their war that the way it was positioned would give Al Qaeda a big advantage to progress. It was assumed that was deliberate. At the time there were very few Al Qaeda and no ISIS there. Immediately Al Qaeda was seen as the big winner in the war and according to a recent crises group paper they have grown massively and yes, are the still the biggest winner of the Saud's continuing attacks although ISIS now also has a place.

    What would help is pressure from the US people that the US gets completely out as well as more pressure in the UK to stop supplying arms to the Sauds to use there coupled with a UN ruling supported by both the US and UK for a cease fire to let aid workers in. What is holding that back is, in the case of the UK it would appear primarily money and with the US probably more its need to sort out the massive mess it has made to the ME - not made less by supporting the creator of groups such as Al Qaeda. Some sort of proper settlement needs to be done in the ME and that includes yourselves.


    and now people are wanting to make mince meat of Lebanon although some things I read suggest you may be for a hard time if you get started on that. When will this carnage end?
     
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