Only one week to go and guess what? The polling returns are -- gasp! -- tightening up.

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  1. Gatewood

    Gatewood Well-Known Member

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    Yep; just as I predicted, with only one week left to run in this presidential election cycle the polling is starting to close up to put Trump and Biden neck and neck rather than Biden waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay ahead of Trump . . . just as I -- and some other conservatives -- predicted would happen. Can you say a perfect repeat of what happened in 2016? I bet you could once you get over the surprise.

    https://thehill.com/homenews/campai...p-neck-and-neck-in-three-southern-states-poll

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    Biden and Trump neck-and-neck in three southern states: poll
    BY JOSEPH CHOI - 10/25/20 11:57 AM EDT 293


    Three southern battleground states appear to be toss-ups, according to new polling, with only a week left before the presidential election.

    A CBS News survey released Sunday morning shows Democratic nominee Joe Biden and President Trump neck-and-neck among likely in Florida, Georgia and North Carolina. Biden currently leads Trump by 2 points in Florida, 50 to 48 percent, and by 4 points in North Carolina, 51 to 47 percent. They are also tied in Georgia at 49 percent apiece.

    The polling data showed Biden leading among those who have already cast their ballot, while Trump led among those who haven’t voted yet. Sixty-one percent of people who already voted said they voted for Biden while 59 percent of those who haven’t yet said they were in favor of Trump.

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    So just like in 2016 the polling companies in 2020 WERE deliberately lying for the benefit of the Democratic National Committee by falsely having Joe Biden way out in front of Trump for month after month despite ONLY Trump vigorously campaigning while mostly Biden cowered in his basement and then -- whenever he did briefly surface -- be lucky to address twenty people at a time as opposed to Trump's consistent thousands upon thousands of supporters in rally venue after rally venue.

    Just as some of us said and just like in 2016, at the end of the campaign cycle the polling returns would -- mysteriously -- tighten up to finally BEGIN ro reflect something actually close to the reality that has really existed all along WHILE those polling companys were deliberately lying to the nation for the political benefit of the DNC. Enoy.
     
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    I don't know that they are deliberately lying. I think they just have no idea how to save their dying industry.
     
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    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    so get out and vote Democrats, you hear that, it's not in the bag, share this with all your friends and family - vote

    thanks Gatewood
     
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    Even Politico knows it! https://www.politico.com/
     
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    truth and justice Well-Known Member

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    So to prove polling companies were lying you quote polling companies. Make up your mind
     
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    The narrative would be that just like in 2016, the polling companies put out phony numbers up until the polls in the last week where they get closer to reality so that they can still claim that they were accurate, while completely ignoring the nonsensical numbers they put out the previous 6 months or so. Any polls that had Biden up by 10-15 points were obviously nonsensical. It does not matter whom are the candidates involved, neither party is ever going to have that big of a margin on the other party in any presidential election. We are a 50/50 nation for the most part. Anyone pushing a 10 or 15 point margin as a legitimate number was selling snake oil.
     
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    So why would they lie?
     
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    In theory. In reality though Biden's number have been flat all along. Trump's have been the ones on the rollercoaster. Anyway, it will come down to republican turn out. The democrats are way out performing the GOP in early voting. The GOP better hope it doesn't rain on election day in any of the swing states.
     
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    I never said anything about Biden or Trumps numbers specifically. I only mentioned the margin. You are arguing against a point that was not raised. That is a textbook strawman argument.
     
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    Not the case here in Florida.
    https://www.politico.com/
     
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    You claimed "Any polls that had Biden up by 10-15 points were obviously nonsensical" and "Anyone pushing a 10 or 15 point margin as a legitimate number was selling snake oil". You are simply wrong. Biden's numbers have been static. Nobody is "pushing" that. Trump's numbers have been erratic. Nobody is "pushing" that either.
     
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    Your link takes me to their landing page, not a specific article.
     
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    LOL....You are confused. I spoke about a margin, and NOT the specific numbers for either side. You are arguing against a point that was not raised. That is a textbook strawman argument.

    I never said that Bidens numbers have been fluid or static. Please stop acting as if I had. Whether his numbers are fluid or static does not impact my point in any fashion. What you are arguing is wholly irrelevant.
     
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    You were attacking polls. Polls consist of numbers. You can squirm all you want but the reality is they were what they were. Nobody really likes Trump that much. It just comes down to whether they hate the democrats more.
     
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    Squirm? LOL.....You are wearing your ignorance as if it were a badge of honor. I am discussing the reported margin. You are oddly trying to claim that since Bidens numbers are static that somehow that means my point about the overall margin is somehow invalidated, when in fact it is wholly irrelevant to my point.

    Your position does not make a lick of sense. Now to insinuate that given your nonsense (that you apparently think is a powerful refutation), that I am somehow "squirming", is nothing short of delusional. Not only do you not have me squirming, hell you havent even addressed what I said. Your blatant lack of understanding most certainly does NOT make me squirm.

    Run along before you hurt yourself.
     
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    This was all predicted. No pollster wants to be totally wrong on election day. It defeats their credibility. Several weeks ago, they admitted to over-polling suburban Republicans and under-polling rural Democrats to achieve the result of disheartening Republicans in hopes they will stay home.

    As we close in on the election, the margins will close, but not enough to make them accurate. I will be no more likely to answer the phone when a pollster calls in the next several days than I have been since watching the terrorist attacks lodged against people who admit to supporting Trump.

    Even Politico is in on the action ,,, making believe Biden supporters, 2nd amendment opponents, are buying guns to protect themselves from law abiding conservatives. You folks are hilarious.
     
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    So you have a link to this admittance?
    Conspiracists are hilarious
     
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    Polls usually tighten up two weeks out. They haven't tightened much. You know what else we're seeing? Biden's favorability has risen over the last six months. That's unusual. The more Trump attacks Biden, the higher his ratings go.
     
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    Polls usually tighten up two weeks out. They haven't tightened much. You know what else we're seeing? Biden's favorability has risen over the last six months. That's unusual. The more Trump attacks Biden, the higher his ratings go.
     
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    Wait, so Trump supporters believe in polls again? Or do they only believe in polls that give them warm fuzzies inside?
     
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    Precisely. This is an exact repeat of 2016, so far as the polling is concerned. Sure Trump may still lose. Nobody KNOWS who's going to finally be declared president. But -- just like with Hillary in 2016 -- to falsely declare Biden massively ahead of Trump from the get-go and for month after month while only Trump was vigorously campaigning and having huge rallies, means that those very same polling companies are politically corrupt and pretty much openly working for the DNC.
     
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    Finacially connected to the DNC.
     
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    Another conspiracy theory with no facts
     
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    ~ Democrats are in panic. There is still time for one more blunder - maybe two ! :wall:
     
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