Open carry is catching on

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  1. tom444

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    Week after week. A shame I sold that gun. That revolver, and a custom M1A I had have been my favorite firearms.
     
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    Not at all. I took my time, but I didn't really rest between shots. Maybe a few deep breaths.
     
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    I can not think of any real reason to open-carry. It makes YOU the first target for a bad guy. It causes uneasiness in the hopolophobes. It may solicit questioning from law enforcement. It will deny you access, or ejection from certain businesses, etc, etc. And it gains you practically nothing in return.
     
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    It may deter a bad guy and make him look for another location to start shooting as in " ****, that guy that just walked around the end of the isle has a gun. He might shoot me while I'm shooting other people.
     
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    I always carry when cycling my daily 30-50mi, much of it in the countryside. Earlier this year, I think I posted it, I was set upon a pack of feral dogs (at least 10) coming up from a creek bed. I managed to use the bike as a quick makeshift barrier, but had to put two of them down bore the rest broke off their attack. It was reported to the County Sheriff, and I went back with County deputies armed with ARs that put the rest down. While I have seen lots feral dogs where I ride, one reason I carry, this was the first pack that attacked; the bridge appeared to be where they denned; there were fairly young pups under an overhang right by the bridge. I later found two 12 year old girls were attacked not far from there after coming home from school sometime in the previous weeks; both were pretty chewed up requiring hospitalization. That attack was stopped when a farmer came to their rescue (no sure how he fended them off). The locals had searched for the dogs but didn't know where they held up.
    BTW, I don't open carry riding, my Kahr 9 is stashed in a belly band with an extra mag.
     
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    Its funny, when you talk to folks in countries that have basically banned guns altogether, they think concealed carry is even more dangerous than open carry, citing the logic 'I'd rather see who has a gun so I can be warned.' But here in America, half the people like guns and are fine seeing strangers with them... the other half get triggered and think a shooting is about to occur (despite being subconsciously aware that literally anyone may be concealing a weapon and statistically, about 2% of any crowd are armed).

    Opponents of open carry are just scared people being led around by their emotions.
     
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    An Taibhse Well-Known Member

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    Paranoia, eh?
     
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    I dunno if it qualifies as paranoia. They dont get scared when someone behind them in the checkout line has a pocketknife, even though it would be just as easy for them to be the victim of a slit throat as it would for someone to shoot them, so logically they arent concerned about random violence. They are more afraid of the visual of the gun itself, suggesting some type of mental illness where they transfer human violence onto an inanimate object.

    ...which, hilariously, fits the definition of 'fetish', a term the anti-gun usually (and incorrectly) try to apply in the inverse to gun enthusiasts.
     
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    Unless he wants something specific from you, personally, he is likely to steer clear - criminals who make a habit out of accosting those they know are armed do not last very long.
     
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    I have seen this happening in Mexico but not in the USA.

    I guess it is starting though.
     
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    Mid-West where I am part of the year. Just started noticing them over the last 3-4 years. We are starting to see coyotes, sometimes coming into urban area where there is ample cover and while they prey on cats and small dogs, I have never seen them as a threat. Feral dog packs and attacks are aberrant events...it's the two legged jackals that are of concern, there has been a reported increase of rapes of female joggers and cyclists.
     
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    Could be just an increase in reporting.

    Why is pepper spray still the ‘best’ rape prevention tech?
    But Apple’s new emergency alert service could change that


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    The Mace(R) brand pepper gun is comparable in size and weight to a flare gun. Pink is the biggest seller, followed by black. The self protection device delivers a stream of pepper spray up to 20 feet away and from any angle. (PRNewsFoto/Mace Security International)
    The week I moved to San Francisco, one of the first things my mom asked was whether I had pepper spray. I do. It’s the most user-friendly and inexpensive technology I can think of to prevent an attack.

    Despite the heap of rape alert buttons and prevention apps of the past several years, pepper spray continues to be the status quo of self-defense gadgets for women.

    https://timeline.com/why-is-pepper-spray-still-the-best-rape-prevention-tech-6959ce9731dc
     
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    They can be accurate out well beyond 50 yards, but You are talking slow, well aimed shots. In real life situations, a pistol is only good for about 10 yards with most confrontations happening inside 5 yards. When I train or just go to the range, most of my shooting is done at 3 or 5 yards.
     
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    Of course. And in real world threats that wouldn't be helpful 99% of the time. But, you could hunt that way if you had to. I wouldn't recommend it, certainly with only iron sights, because it's never right to leave wounded animals around, but in a survival situation it's good to know what you might be able to do, plus long shots at paper, or other targets, are fun.
     
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    Sure. An those women shouldn't be wearing those skimpy sport clothes that invite predation.
     
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    I don't think that's fair at all.

    Ladies, get and keep with you some pepper spray. But wear what ever you want, this isn't the 50s.

    Why is pepper spray still the ‘best’ rape prevention tech?
    But Apple’s new emergency alert service could change that


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    The Mace(R) brand pepper gun is comparable in size and weight to a flare gun. Pink is the biggest seller, followed by black. The self protection device delivers a stream of pepper spray up to 20 feet away and from any angle. (PRNewsFoto/Mace Security International)
    The week I moved to San Francisco, one of the first things my mom asked was whether I had pepper spray. I do. It’s the most user-friendly and inexpensive technology I can think of to prevent an attack.

    Despite the heap of rape alert buttons and prevention apps of the past several years, pepper spray continues to be the status quo of self-defense gadgets for women.
     
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    Just be aware- its near impossible to use pepper spray without receiving some of the effects yourself. Hopefully you can avoid getting any directly on your face, but just being in the vicinity when its deployed will make you cough and blur your vision.
     
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    Yes. My wife asked me to get her some pepper spray/mace, back then you needed a license here to get it, and I warned her of that problem. Particularly in a situation where the assailant is very close to you.

    BTW, does it look like this lady needs a gun?

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    truth. my wife carries a sig 238. far better than pepper spray
     
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    Yes carrying child is an invitation for an attack.
     
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    Well, most of my handgun training is definitely at standard combat distances (3-7 yards) with a few close-retention drills. However, I also practice regularly at 25 yards, and shoot at longer distance ranges as well. There are instances of people being pressed to take life-saving shots at very long ranges; including a recent instance of a gentleman in Texas who took a 75-yard shot that saved the life of a law-enforcement officer in danger of being murdered. I don't expect to ever have to take such a shot with my carry pistol, but I still like knowing I could do it if I had to.
     
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    APD sergeant awarded Badge of Bravery for stopping downtown shooter
    By Claire RickePublished: July 1, 2016, 10:05 am Updated: July 1, 2016, 6:33 pm

    APD Sergeant named national Officer of the Month for December[/paste:font]

    AUSTIN (KXAN) — With a gun in one hand and the reigns of his horses in the other, Austin Police Department Sgt. Adam Johnson killed a downtown shooter with one single shot.

    The Austin police officer is now getting national recognition for his efforts that stopped a man who opened fire in downtown Austin on the day after Thanksgiving in 2014.

    Sgt. Johnson was in the process of putting up the Mounted Patrol horses when he heard the shots outside of the APD building. While holding the reins of two horses agitated by the gunfire, Johnson fired one round from his handgun, from 312 feet away, at the shooter, 49-year-old Larry McQuilliams, killing him.

    http://kxan.com/2016/07/01/apd-officer-receives-badge-of-bravery-for-stopping-downtown-shooter/
     
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    I don't need to carry a gun on me. I'm not a coward.
     
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    Most of my practice is up close and personal like most confrontations are but I have a scenario in my mind where I'm in a place of business in an active shooter situation and I have a shot at the guy a hundred feet down a hall or store isle and I practice that shot too.
     

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