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  1. alakazam

    alakazam Banned

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    So far this hasnt been an open forum. All i keep getting is reply from one side. Where is the liberal side and their views?
     
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    Turtledude Well-Known Member Donor

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    on gun issues there are two sides. there is the pro gun side which is almost always correct and on the other side you have the side that is based on lies and dishonesty

    if you actually believe that laws banning honest people from owning, obtaining, or possessing firearms, actually will stop criminals you are either stupid or ignorant

    most of those who push for such laws do so for the following reasons

    1) to pander to others who want something DONE. This is often the case of politicians following a massacre. They might not be all that anti gun but they want to pander to voters who scream for SOMETHING TO BE DONE

    2) they actually want to ban good citizens having or obtaining guns

    3) they want to stave off charges they are weak on crime

    none of these reasons are very conducive to making good arguments in their support
     
  3. nimdabew

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    The anti gun crowd will be along shortly to say that the pro gun rights people bully them and demean them. Their arguments are usually based on emotion and hypotheticals, not statistics and fact.

    Your post OTOH, they are usually poorly written with bad grammar and poor word choice and sentence structure. You would getter betterm responses to your posts, and more of them, if you used proper sentence structure and grammar.
     
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    perdidochas Well-Known Member

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    It is open. They just don't choose to participate. Open doesn't mean balanced. You are the liberal side.....
     
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    Xenamnes Banned

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    They are refraining from getting involved with you, due to the indefensible nonsense that is being presented, in a blatantly incoherent fashion.
     
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    Hotdogr Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    As I said before, if you're just looking for validation, then that is a purely masturbatory exercise that isn't really worthy of debate or discussion. The views you originally presented are unenforceable, illogical and indefensible. Perhaps, when even the liberal anti-gun crowd will not participate in your liberal anti-gun threads, it may be time to re-examine your own position.
     
  7. Texan

    Texan Well-Known Member

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    Everyone is invited to post in this forum. Many of the liberals in this forum post from the other side of the world and don't have a vested interest in our Constitution. Their interest is only academic and our views are foreign to their society.
     
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    OrlandoChuck Well-Known Member

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    Frankly there are not nearly as many people in the US as you think that agree with you.
     
  9. Texan

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    I know there are a lot of wrong people here in America, but they get my arguments everyday from Americans who disagree with them. They don't live in a nation that agrees with them in near lockstep. The foreigners base their arguments on what they see in their country and how they perceive America.

    How many foreigners think all Texans wear cowboy hats and ride horses every day?
     
  10. Wolverine

    Wolverine New Member Past Donor

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    Gun owners have a physical stake in gun control. If they get lazy, they will have their door kicked in when the government decides that pump action shotguns are too dangerous (like the UK). Or a lesser extent, unable to purchase certain firearms, magazines, accessories, etc.

    Gun prohibitionists do not have a stake in it. They do not own guns. They do not have an interest in guns. So why would most gun prohibitionists spend time learning about a subject they have little interest in?
     
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    AlphaOmega Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Umm they dont have views, just instructions from Obama.
     
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    Greataxe Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The anti-gun crowd must not have much to tell you. To sum up their typical arguements: Murders happen to be lower in my country/state/area with gun control laws---so this means these same laws should work where you live. More guns = more crime. Certian biased studies done by the liberal gurus controlling this certain field of study show.....
     
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    U just spouted off 4 lies. And here I thought only liberals lied!.
     
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    This is not a one sided forum.

    If you want a fully forum that is purely one sided for liberals, you want to go to the democratic underground forum.

    This forum liberals have a very loud voice and do a lot of partisan sniping and always blame the conservatives.
     
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    Maybe if you were seeking reasoned discussion rather than "sides", you'd get a better response.
     
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    In general most of the replies you will get on a debate forum are from the opposing side as the supporting side may feel that the OP says what they would have said hence their not adding to the discussion. I like when others oppose me as I see this as an opportunity to gain from the perspective of another. People patting me on the back feeds my ego but little else.
     
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    It depends on what you mean with "liberal" ... it changes from a culture to an other. For example in Italy "liberals" are center - right leaning. I know this sounds odd for Americans ...
     
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    In the U.S. we often see those on the right being less than pleasant and those on the left deciding to avoid them. Being a liberal may very well create the issues you refer to.
     
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    well in some areas, the left is emotional and unthinking (gun control being a classic one) and on some issues the right tends to be anti-fact (flag burning, gay marriage). when one side is arguing rationally, and the other side is emotobabbling, that leads to some nastiness
     
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    Interesting, I find the opposite to be true. The nastiest posters we have are on the left, IMHO.
     
  22. tecoyah

    tecoyah Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I suppose this is a perception based upon personal political bias, as with most things we discuss here. For myself I come from a position of being rejected by my own party and generally called a RINO for not being in lockstep or aggressive enough.
     
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    I agree, background checks are unconstitutional, if everyone has a right to own a gun to protect their homes and family, then a background check to see if you have that right makes no sense
     
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    This is exactly what im talking about. I dont represent the anti gun side. I just want more open minded conversation. and because i want that i get this childish ranting. and do u know what a comentater is? they arent narrow minded, taking just one side of the conversation. But they invite both sides to share their opinion.
     
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    Never said i was a liberal ! They say im a liberal because I just want the sale of assault style weapons stopped. Those who already have these weapons will be keeping them. I not looking to take sides. Just have a decent adult,mature, conversation.
     

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