Order restored. Balance of power alive and well, thanks, US constitution

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  1. Mike12

    Mike12 Well-Known Member

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    I laugh and enjoy listening to Trump haters in CNN like Carl Bernstein, John Dean and others talk about how Trump is a KING, how he was squashed balance of power, how he got away with murder, how shameful senate is. Turns out, it's projection, what the left has made a trademark of democratic party.

    The house impeachment was a partisan effort and it should NEVER be allowed, ever again. This was an egregious act and the epitome of abuse of power. I never heard the Trump haters in CNN act disgusted with how the house rushed the impeachment, locked out Trump's defense lawyers from proceedings, held secretive meetings and refused to enforce subpoenas to get additional witnesses to the 18 witnesses they had testify. This was an abomination, a political scam and the proof is in the pudding. The house failed to gain bipartisan support in the house, not a single republican out of 196 (196!!!!) voted for impeachment. Meanwhile, 3 democrats did not vote for impeachment one was so disgusted that he switched parties. Impeachment powers is an awesome responsibility bestowed by constitution. The threshold for an impeachable offense must be very very high and when that threshold is breached, bipartisan support will be there, 0 out 196 is irrefutable evidence that that threshold wasn't met.

    In the end, what happened in the senate was justice served. When the house rushes through an impeachment in a completely unprecedented and partisan manner, the senate shall strike it down and strike it down with force. Never again. If the house is to impeach a president again, they must be thorough, they must seek bipartisan support, they must give the accuser the chance to defend himself, they must ensure the impeachable offense meets a very high threshold. If the house doesn't meet these standards, the impeachment will and MUST fail. Removing a president from office is nothing more than overriding the American voter and what happened in the house was a disgrace. To go after the senate for shutting down this partisan hack job by the house is assigning fault to the wrong party, it starts with the house.

    In the end, this was the right end result. The precedent has been set - Do your job in the house, no more partisan impeachments. The house's abuse of power has been neutralized by the senate, balance of power restored.

    Now, democrats, make the case to the American voter as to why you all think Trump should not win in 2020 for an alleged quid pro quo (denied by the victim, Ukraine) where Trump asked Ukraine to look into very very VERY corrupt like behavior by a former VP and his son. Go make that case.... good luck.
     
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    HOR attempted to cut out the judicial branch of government and cry obstruction of justice. It was a hail Mary pass but since they could find no actual crime it was all they had so they threw it. The Trump team intercepted. Game over.
     
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    order restored? not a chance, the left is already planning their next magic bullet & vowed to never stop investigating till they find something impeachable, iow, five more years of obstruction coming...

    the senate needs to impose harsh reprimands upon the house dems and us voters need to vote them all out during this election cycle...
     
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    So pathetic, you all are shtting on the Constitution and you don't even know it.

    So much for public education.

    They admit he abused power and the Dems were 100% correct. They just refused to remove him because they're cowards. They are more afraid of the mindless wrath of Joe Six Pack than the failure of the nation.
     
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    I hardly think the left knows what it means either! Hearsay to convict, brutha please! You wouldn't have it and no would anyone else if faced with a crime..

    Time to be real!
     
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    Can you imagine someone getting death penalty for being accused of sexual assault even when victim denies it? Sounds extraordinarily insane and out of this universe doesn't it? Yeah, that's what happened here - maximum penalty for an 'alleged' offense.

    Trump gets accused of a quid pro quo and assumed guilty even when alleged victim (Ukraine) states it never happened. So all democrats have is possible intent, 0 proof that it actually happened as it can only happen if Ukraine says it happened.

    and the penalty? the worst possible for a president, removal from office (the death penalty)

    This is how radical and dangerous your party has become.

    In the end, if the allegations are true ( assume Ukraine is lying) and this is such a horrofic abuse of power and impeachable, shouldn't it be EASY AS PIE to beat Trump in 2020? What's the worry? Shouldn't it be easy to convince Americans to not vote for Trump because he 'may' have pressured Ukraine to look into very VERY corrupt like actions by Bidens? Such a HORRENDOUS offense, should be EASY to defeat him in 2020, RIGHT????????
     
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    Time to replace the 51 GOP senators who voted no to witnesses and documents in a trial where they clearly swore an OATH to be fair and impartial.An OATH that meant absolutely nothing to them.
     
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    Donald Trump bribed a foreign head of state with funds appropriated by Congress. There is absolutely no denying the fact, but Republicans clearly do not care. They care more about power and appeasing their brain-dead base. America is dead.
     
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    Nobody proved it, fact. How can it be true if everyone in ukraine denies. This is like convicting someone of rape when the victim denies it.

    There is some evidence of ‘intent’ but no evidence that ukraine was actually pressured... 0.

    and it doesn’t matter anyway, biden is not above the law and his actions must be investigated!!!!! He can’t run away and claim he can’t be investigated as he is a rival. His actions and actions of his son were despicable, making million off corruption and covering it up.
     
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    Joe six pack is the nation.... or he should be.
     
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    Man, I could swear I’ve seen these exact same posts in threads about the outcome of the Mueller Investigation. Maybe we can save these posts and paste them in the upcoming thread TRUMP FIXED THE 2020 ELECTION RESULTS due out in early November.
     
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    You have that chance in 2020. Or do you want them impeached too? You didn't get your way, deal with it.
     
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    america died when corporations took control...
     
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    The victim denies it? Do you REALLY think that Zelensky will admit that the was extorted by Trump in his little scheme for personal gain? If he did, that would be the end of his political career.

    EVERYBODY knows that the allegations against Trump are true. You know it, the GOP Senators know it (that's why they don't want to hear evidence), history will write it in the books. History will not treat these GOP Senators kindly, who put party before doing the right thing.
     
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    welp... they're sh*ttin on the sidewalks in san fran, everyone knows it, yet those in control of that city/state do not give a sh*t...

    ironically sh*tty, isn't it...
     
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    Wrong nerd! I don't know it. The transcript is why.
     
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    Damn, if $18.63 trillion a year is dead then I sure hate to guess what your charge is for a resurrection.
     
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    You know it too, although you'd never admit it. It is actually kind of getting silly to deny it, with the evidence that is already known and continues to come out.

    That's why the GOP Senator defense is all over the place, from "he didn't do it", to "he did it, but not impeachable", to "but Biden",finally to "he did it, it is impeachable, but impeachment is bad for the country".

    Yes, seriously, the latter one is Rubio's latest defense.
     
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    NO, nobody knows because it hasn’t been proven. No-one in ukraine has claimed there was a quid pro quo and they were extorted, bribed. You are just another ‘mind reader’ and then you think you have credibility, you destroy your own credibility, look at you go. You all read minds and this is your proof. I would laugh but it’s actually serious, you tried to impeach based on claiming you can read minds. It’s crazy... and freaking scary.

    and i don’t understand, if trump is guilty of such a horrible thing, why are you all so dead worried that he can win in 2020? Shouldn’t it be EASY to defeat him, given his horrible ‘crimes’? What’s to worry? Just a few more months...


    The democrats have been exposed for trying to overthrow a president in a partisan manner so they can interfere in 2020 elections... you mind readers are exposed...
     
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    shallow eh?

    capitalism is a great driving force...

    corporations killed that driving force...

    notice the conundrum?

    we used to have laws against monopolizing... so, the monopolies decided to diverse by converging with other monopolies...

    leaving no room for the 'mom & pop" shops...

    leaving limited 'choice' in the market place...
     
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    Trump has brought balance.. now Democrats are mad because they don't get everything they want anymore.
     
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    The left can read minds, i just realized that. Schiff’s whole case was based on his ability to read zelensky’s mind.

    but even more damning for the left is how desperate they are, they claim trump did such a horrible thing yet don’t think they can defeat him in 2020. Something here doesn’t make sense, it should be so easy to defeat him now; after all, they have proved the president did a horrific, horrible, horrendous thing and ‘everyone knows it’.
     
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    Please enough with the fake outrage. You belong to the party that made a mockery out of the impeachment process over a sexual escapade. Your party started the clown show so you have nobody to blame but yourselves.
     
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    Correction...
    we are winning... the losers are the ones who need to find blame, in defeat.
     
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