Order restored. Balance of power alive and well, thanks, US constitution

You misquoted me. I don't use comma splices.

 

Notice that none of our leftists can ever answer with specifics? They simply generalize, offer no evidence, and then get angry when facts-based intellects demand . . . facts.

 

FFS. Even Republican senators acknowledge it happened. Just the other day, Sen. Marco Rubio said he voted against witnesses and more evidence because it was only hammering the point home. The question isn't whether or not he did this thing. The question is whether or not it's worthy of removal from office.

The Republicans feel it's not.

 

Trump was impeached, that was the best that could be done with a corrupt President and Republican run Senate.... History will not look good for republicans

 

I am glad some republican are admitting this, I am fine with him being impeached but not removed...

just having the stain of impeachment on his record is good enough for me, future generations will know we called him out on his bad acts

when Trump's great great grand children are in school then will learn about the immoral President that was the 3rd to be impeached over trying to use a foreign government to interfere in our elections

 

But Trump supporters don't see it that way. They see it as a left-wing conspiracy to attack the golden boy.

 

Yes, it's called dumbing down the population

 

So the argument of you lefties is this -

A person (specifically only a Democratic person) can engage in all manner of corruption and be beyond investigation if they run for office??

But investigations into political opponents (specifically Republican political opponents) is okay as long as it is sanctioned by the Democratic Party??

Is that about right??

 

You're bragging about winning at checkers when the game we're playing is chess.

We don't elect Presidents by popular vote. There used to be a time when Democrats, who claim to stand for minorities, recognised that popular vote was not the best idea in the world for the people they claim to support.

If you'd like to play checkers, they'll beat you at that too.

 

OMG Well that's definitely a Democrat mind set LMFAO ¯\_(º¸º)_/¯

 

It is both inaccurate and dishonest for you to claim I said "all" Democrats.

 

yep, that’s what they stand for

 

Exactly. Nothing they have is based in reality. It only exists in their minds.

 

You ever come up with something based in reality that can actually be discussed or no?

 

Yep! Nice to see the Constitution win over leftist once again!

 

The biggest "muchers" off the government today are the gigantic corporations.

 

So what do we do? Tax the gigantic corporations? I’ll give you a hint. You can tax corporate America as much as you want and the only one that will pay for that corporate tax is the consumer. Do you really think Jeff Bezos is going to reach into his pockets and pay corporate tax with his own money? Hell no, he’ll raise the price of Amazon products across the board and make the consumer pay for it. The same thing with the Krafts and the price of Patriots’ season tickets, the same with the Doyle’s and the price of a Domino’s pizza, the same with the Cathy’s and the price of a Chik-fil-a sandwich, the same with every plane ticket, gallon of gas and pound of meat. Corporate tax will just be another operating expense passed on to the consumer.

 

Sounds like you've swallowed the Trump Republican propaganda lies hook line & sinker.

 

Your post said simply: "Democrats performed"...without specifying "all" or "some", or "the Democratic leadership." When I read your post, my first response was to interpret it as saying Democrats in general--or all Democrats. There was nothing dishonest in my response.

 

For impeachment and removal to work, the threshold numbers are approximately 60% of all Americans must favor the removal of the president. Not just one political party as was the case with Trump and with Bill Clinton. That 60% of all Americans include roughly 55% of independents and a third of the president's party. Trump's impeachment never came close to those numbers, neither did Bill Clinton's. Now Nixon's did, so he resigned.

I think the crimes that warrant impeachment and removal must be easily understood and accept by a good majority of Americans. What the Democrats charged Trump with wasn't easily understood and a plurality of Americans were against removal. In fact the public as a whole when from 44-40 in favor of removal back on 13 Nov to 43-41 against on 5 Feb 2020. A plus 4 point advantage for removal became a minus 2. This tells me the democrats failed in convincing any American other than those in favor way back in November. Americans weren't buy their arguments and or reasons for removal.

This whole thing had a very partisan look to it. It was a one political party impeachment, not an America as a whole impeachment. It was bound to fail. One party alone can't effect a successful impeachment and removal, it has to include a good majority of independents and a chunk of the president's party.

 

Those of you on the left have Joseph Goebbels type control of the media, and you pound propaganda misinformation into the minds of Americans 24/7.

It is both a testament to the utter absurdity of your arguments and the ability of thinking people to resist your Orwellian nonsense, that numbers are as weak as they are.

The weaker of mind someone is, the more likely they are to fall for the propaganda of the MSM and Democratic Party.

 

What reality am I missing?

 

Well, the alternative is to buckle down & accept the reality that corporations are now regarded as synonymous with "human," by the courts, & given the same "human" rights. Since those with money or wealth have historically been given more "rights" than those less affluent, corporations automatically inherit that hallowed place in society, recognized by the courts, the legislatures & members of the Executive branch of government, for special recognition. All this means that you or I as individuals, will always come up short when in conflict with corporations. That means that our "rights" are based mostly on wealth rather than adherence to the law. In my mind, that is in direct conflict with the intent of the Constitution, & I want to see it changed to protect the Constitution & my personal rights. To do that, we have to reject giving individual human rights to corporations, & see them as business institutions rather than citizens of the country.

 

My view has always been that even if it happened, so what. Trump didn't pull this off with Bernie or anyone else, why Biden? simply because Biden engaged in extremely corrupt like behavior, publicly boasting about a quid pro quo where he forced Ukraine to fire prosecutor investigating his son, who was enriching himself off the power of his dad and off a corrupt company. Now you can argue that it was just Trump trying to take out a political rival but it can equally argued that it was Trump looking into possible corruption from a former VP who abused power of his office and that Biden is NOT ABOVE THE LAW, just because he is a rival.

but the way i destroy these positions you all take is easy. Imagine if Bernie Sanders wins and we all find out that Donald Trump Jr was making 100k a month off a very corrupt company in China. We then find out that Trump, in 2020, as president, put pressure (threaten more tariffs) on China to fire prosecutor who was investigating corruption where Donald Jr. worked at and he's caught on camera boasting about it. Bernie asks China to investigate this and this all unfolds in 2023 when Trump is leading in the republican primary polls.

Now let me ask you a very simple question. Would you be asking for the removal of Bernie? You know the answer is NO. In fact, you would be here, in these forums, protesting that Bernie SHOULD'VE looked into this CORRUPT LIKE behavior because it his his duty as president and that Trump cannot evade justice just because he is a rival. You know it and every other lefty here knows it.

So in the end, this is all about you all wanting to remove Trump because you hate him and you fear he will win again in 2020.

 

I asked you 3 times to give examples. Three times you've failed to answer.

You don't answer because the reality is your feelings are not based on tangible realities.