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Oregon Senate Cancels Saturday Session Amid Reports of Militia Groups Protesting at Capitol

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  1. 9royhobbs

    9royhobbs Well-Known Member

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    Republicans fight fair? I'll have to alert the media. Since when, is this new? I would say Democrats should take that page out of the rights play book.....but it's not there.
    Merrick Garland would not agree with you.
     
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    Maltia/Neo nazis......pre med/pre law
     
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    Ah yes, those were the good ol days when Walker was recalled and won his recall election with a greater margin than his initial election. LMFAO!
     
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    Lee S Moderator Staff Member Past Donor

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    The will of the people of Oregon is not the same thing as the will of the Democratic Party of Oregon. Those legislators who left the capital are doing exactly what their particular constituents want them to do. There is no outrage coming from Roseburg, Klamath Falls, Baker City, Pendleton, Wasco, Burns or any other city or county that are represented by the absent senators. The cap and trade bill will kill the economy of smaller communities, farm communities, timber communities, ranch communities, and rural communities. These communities (which are where the republican Senators come from) are going to be hit disproportionately harder by this foolish and shortsighted self inflicted gunshot to the foot legislation.

    This legislature has passed enough silly and short sighted bills this session already. In 20 days, the legislature will shut down and put an end to Oregon's economical suicide attempt. Giving the legislature more time to pass bad legislation is not in the best interest of the state.
     
    Lee S, Jun 22, 2019
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    I recall them doing it in Texas specifically, with the same tactic used to stop them.
     
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    Why hold Republicans to a higher standard than the Democrats had previously set?
     
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    Dems don't use whataboutism NEARLY as much as Pubs, but then Dems can usually make a good argument to 2 or 3 levels whereas Pubs go to "... but what about /fake news/Steel Dossier/ emails/ Benghazi/ Vince Foster/right away. Thus the benefits of actually having some SUBSTANCE to what you say rather than just talking points in support of giving the very, very rich even more.
     
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    Democrats did the same thing in Texas

    http://www.cnn.com/2003/ALLPOLITICS/05/13/texas.legislature/

    AUSTIN, Texas (CNN) -- With action in the Texas House brought to a standstill, roughly 50 state Democratic representatives said they would remain in neighboring Oklahoma "as long as it takes" to block a Republican-drawn redistricting plan that could cost them five seats in Congress.
     
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    And the difference is? Oh I know. The old double standard difference and how Republicans are held to a different standard than democrats.
     
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    If the people of the state of Oregon, the ones who are supposed to be represented by the elected officials, simply do not want this legislation passed into law, then those on the republican party side of the political divide are actually required to take such steps to prevent its passage.
     
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    Thank you and it wasn't anywhere in the OP as was claimed. While I understand the passion that statement was highly inappropriate and possibly borderline criminal and that particular hot head senator should first apologize to law enforcement and then resign. He sure wouldn't get my vote next election.
    Of course my opinion on this is based on accepting it was a factual quote and I've lost all trust in media so I can't help but remain at least slightly skeptical.
     
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    You are correct. What is different is that armed vigilantes have threatened to kill any person attempting to capture and return fleeing legislators. That's different.
     
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    Do you have a quote for that claim?
     
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    It was an implied threat and not a direct threat....which is not illegal. It was nothing more than rhetoric. I seriously doubt he would carry through on any threat. I'm not saying it was appropriate, but only a fool would see it as being more than what it was.
     
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    No, and I explained that in another post.
     
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    Because one hot head senator said something stupid?
     
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    Josephwalker, Jun 23, 2019
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    So the answer is there is no quote of the alleged threat
     
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    I think one point about the cancelling of the Saturday session of the legislature needs to be addressed. Was there an actual and credible threat to the legislature and was that threat serious enough to cancel the legislative session? The legislature was already shut down because the Republican Senators had left and no quorum was possible anyways. The legislature was there to meet with constituents and lobbyists and had no other business to conduct even if they stayed in the capitol. The threat consisted of a group of loggers and farmers who came to the capital building to address their grievances with the legislators who would put them out of business or at the very least, severely cripple their businesses. Rather than meet face to face with those who they intended to harm and owning their actions, the Democrats fled the capital in a much less principled manner than the Republican Senators did.
     
    Lee S, Jun 23, 2019
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    There is a quote of him talking tough and spewing rhetoric....nothing more.
     
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    Post #40... even better... a video....
     
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    The Democrats own prediction is that gasoline for agriculture would be have a carbon tax of over five dollars a gallon by 2030. This would be on top of the price of the fuel and taxes already levied on gasoline. That would kill a lot of industries including farming, ranching, food processing, and a host of other industries. Food equals gasoline (or diesel). That is the reality of modern agriculture.
     
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    Every time they try to raise taxes in Oregon, we hear the same tired argument that you are here trying to make. Every time the measure is passed, the dire predictions of Republicans never comes true.
     
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