Oswald did it, Conspiracy theorists in denial and cannot accept it

Let's preface this with a note on the psychological forces at play here. It all starts with the denial that one nutcase loser like Oswald could kill the most powerful person in the world. This is simply something that conspiracy theorists will never ever accept, period. These people cannot accept the randonmes of something like this and need to believe that there was planning amongst powerful, resourceful and highly capable people; i.e. - mafia, castro, russians, CIA, lyndon johnson etc...

Let's follow the above with some facts that kind of put into perspective what kind of world conspiracy theorsists live in. Over the many years, these people have contradicted each other repeatedly and pointed to over 40 different assassins and over 80 possible people who were involved. Let's summarize:

1. Clay Shaw was behind it
2. French assasins hired by the mob did it
3. Castro was behind it
4. Lyndon Johnson was behind it
5. The CIA was behind it
6. Oswald did it, on orders from Soviet Union
7. Secret Service was in it
8. FBI, local Dallas police colluded to hide evidence
9. Unbrella man did it
10. Storm drain (Manhole) theory (someone from a manhole did it)
11. Covered up by Robert Kennedy himeslf
12. Dimaggio did it (because Kennedy was banging M. Monroe)
13. Jackie Kennedy was behind it (yes, some have proposed this)
14. the the 3 tramps theory
15. Badge man
16. List is endless... i can't list all of them

Just like with 09/11, they will not accept any fact or evidence to suggest what they don't want to believe in, any overwhelming evidence against them is discredited as fabricated, how can you even argue with people like this? The answer is that it's impossible.

I have watched many shows on JFK and heard many of the conspiracy theorsists crazy ideas but the fact remains that the overwhelming evidence points to Oswald, a misfit who was a marksman, wanted to renounce his American citizenship, attempted to commit suicide once, attempted to assasinate someone before, owned the rifle and worked in the school depository. This nut did it, end of story... All these ridiculous theories about how he was framed, autopsies covered up, bullet fragments kept hidden, photos fabricated, witnesses and his wife coerced into lying, finger prints planted, rifle documents fabricated, so many silenced etc.., are the stuff of the most fantastic movies... not even the brightest CIA agents could've set this up and covered it all up. Not to mention the unbelievable coincidence that this marksman anti-American nutcase just happened to work at the school book depository..

All of it has been put through rigirous scientific testing yet conspiracy theorists cannot accept it. They claim what happened was impossible, yet fail to look at the evidence. A lot of their cliams that the Warren commission's report findings don't add up and are impossible can be easily destroyed. Let's go over probably their biggest claims and show how unfounded they are:

1. Single bullet theory. They claim this is IMPOSSIBLE - how can one single bullet change directions, remain intact and do so much damage. THIS HAS BEEN SCIENTIFICALLY shown to be probable. Numerous tests were conducted where bullets were fired into materials resembling muscle and bones to show that a bullet can remain intact afterwards, they have showed them on TV! not only this, the tests revealed that the bullet didn't stay straight after initial impact and time and time again actually turned sideways, consistent with the entry wound on Conneley's back! Not only this, it has been shown that the bullet wasn't really unscathed afterwards, it was mashed up somwhat..clearly. Also, it has been proven that the bullet didn't change directions because contrary to what these fools think, connelly wasn't exactly aligned straight with Kennedy. The science and ballistic tests have repeatdly shown that this was highly probable..

2. Kennedy's reaction to head shot. Of course they claim that since Kennedy seemed to moved backwards after this shot, bullet MUST have been from the front; i.e, the infamous grassy knoll! AGAIN, many tests were done where bullets were fired into skulls from the back, skulls filled with material resembling brain and tests revealed results consistent with Kennedy's skull fractures. Also, it has been explained numerous times that the backwards motion evident after the headshot is consistent with the reaction the head would exhibit when brain material would exit on the frontal right side. Not only this, it has also been explained that when Kennedy's brain was destroyed, his nervous system was under attack, pretty much tensing all of his muscles and since a person's back muscles are much stronger than frontal muscles, the motion would probably be backwards. Lastly, it has been shown a million times that when the headshot sequence is looked at in very slow motion, Kennedy's head ACTUALLY MOVES SLIGHTLY FORWARD at the exact time he is struck and then the reaction aforementioned results in the backwards motion.

3. Oswald couldn't have pulled this. I have seem laughable conspiracy theory shows like Jesse Ventura's conspiracy show where the shots were attempted in a reproduced scenario and it has been deemed to me impossible. CBS conducted probably the most comprehgensive tests on this and several were able to reproduce what Oswald did. It has been shown that a person like Oswald was more than capable of making these shots and the rifle he used was not the crappy rifle conspiracy theorists claim it was. I don't think anyone claims that it was easy but Oswald did miss once, didn't he? He was also no random citizen for god's sake, he was an ex-marine and a marksman..


The evidence pointing to this man is absolutely overwhelming and he was a NUT, a mistfit, an anti-American who defected to the Soviet Union and a marksman.. who worked in a building with a great view of the president on that day, it was the perfect opportunity and he decided to take it.

He did it, end of story... I know it's very unsettling for conspiracy theorists to accept something so random and someone so insignificant being resposible for this but this is how life is, not everything is planned and controlled.

 

So after all that you have bought into the idea.

And you don't even realise that makes you a conspireist too.

 

are you one of the conspiracy theorists? wake up

 

No,accepting the fact...oswald was the lone assassin,same as John Wilkes Booth,Charles J. Guiteau,and Leon Czolgosz

 

LOL. That's your best shot?

Fed hook, line and sinker by the establishment. You are American, I presume?

 

why would i need my best shot when your initial reply was empty..there was nothing to it.

 

Only as empty as the head that read it, I think.

 

While I believe that Oswald was the only shooter. I do leave myself open to listen to stories about maybe people who had been involved with him (if someone can provide some good evidence) I could see it possible that someone encouraged Oswald's actions in some way.

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While I believe that Oswald was the only shooter. I do leave myself open to listen to stories about maybe people who had been involved with him (if someone can provide some good evidence) I could see it possible that someone encouraged Oswald's actions in some way.

 

Oswald being the lone gunman theory is the craziest of all the nutty theories. Even Hale Boggs of the Warren Commission didn't buy it. Of course he went missing not long after he fell from grace. In April 1971 Boggs made a speech on the floor of the House in which he strongly attacked FBI Director J. Edgar Hoover and the whole of the FBI. This led to a conversation on April 6, 1971, between then-President Richard M. Nixon and the Republican minority leader, Gerald R. Ford, Jr., in which Nixon said that he could no longer take counsel from Boggs as a senior member of Congress. In 1972, while he was still Majority Leader, the twin engine airplane in which Boggs was traveling disappeared over a remote section of Alaska. The airplane presumably crashed and was never found.

You lone nutters don't like to do your homework do you?

Oswald was behind the car.

 

boggs didn't buy it but everyone else in the commission did? These were all honrabale people.. This what you cuckoos do, you discredit the many who you don't want to listen to and glorify the few you want to believe in. Boggs didn't it buy, why? a hunch? little devils on his shoulders? he had 0 evidence and the rest bought it.

as far as the garbage stuff around kenney's head wound, i have heard all before and it has all being debunked but you guys just live your days believing in what you want to believe in, no matter what evidence is on the contrary. Kennedy's skull x-rays have been examined, pictures examined and by and large, most agree entry wound was on the back and exit wound on the right side.. of course according to you guys, pictures were touched up, x-rays manipulated and any doctor or witness who said entry wound was on back, exit on front, was coerced or worked for the CIA etc... what else is new?

 

Mike, you believe in the kookiest theory of all. You have to dismiss a lot of very important information to believe Oswald acted alone.

Security was told to stand down. The open windows in the buildings would not have been allowed by security. The secret service agents running next to the car were ordered to stand down. The driver of the car slowed down until the head shot was confirmed. By law President Kennedy's autopsy should have been performed in Texas. Dr. Kemp Clark, chief of neurosurgery at Parkland Hospital, who was the first physician to see Kennedy after he had been shot claimed that day, "A missile had gone in and out of the back of his head causing external lacerations and loss of brain tissue." His car should have been held as crime scene evidence. It wasn't. Kennedy had made enemies in the CIA by blocking their Cuba operations and Kennedy was pulling troops out of Vietnam.

You have to dismiss all that information, and believe Oswald had some motive, when the CIA had definite motive and opportunity as well as President Johnson who knew Kennedy was not going to nominate him for VP the following year. Four days after Kennedy was killed Vietnam policy was reversed. Oswald being the lone shooter is the hardest of all the theories to believe.

 

so much bull(*)(*)(*)(*)...

Secret Service WAS NOT ORDERED to stand down. That's a CT Nutter's lie that has been repeated...over and over....

Greer slowed down when sensed something was wrong, not to confirm a "kill shot". If Greer knew a shot was coming, why did he duck down?

Dr. Kemp Clark did not perform an autopsy so, his comment was not based on an extensive review of the wound. His job was to save JFK life. No more.

You have nothing more than assertions based on your ignorance of the facts.

 

Greer slowed down when he sensed something wrong ... like a gunshot? You can go to your grave believing that Oswald acted alone. I don't care. The bullet that killed JFK came from the front and Oswald was behind him. I can see that with my own eyes. At about frame number 228 it looks like the first shot to the neck as Kennedy grabs his neck and Jackie seeks to help him. The driver should have been on the gas immediately. What appears to be about 5 seconds later, around frame 313, Kennedy is shot in the front temporal lobe, his head goes back, and to the left. The driver speeds away. The first doctor that sees Kennedy after he is shot, Dr. Kemp Clark chief of neurosurgery at Parkland Hospital says, "Mr. Kennedy also had a massive, gaping wound in the back and one on the right side of the head." and "A missile had gone in and out of the back of his head causing external lacerations and loss of brain tissue."

Earl Warren would not let the others on the Warren Commission see the autopsy photographs and they were locked away. Dr. James Joseph Humes admits that they did not do a proper autopsy on Kennedy.

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Can you provide any proof as to why the security was held back and who issued the order? The driver slowed down after the first shot. What, do you expect a driver to automatically know that the president was shot? The autopsy is well recorded. It doesnt matter where it was performed when there are clear records of it. You have one of the 2 doctors who saw Kennedy that back your claim. The 6 others dis agreed. Majority rules. The car was kept for a month after the shooting in the white house garage, where evidence was taken. There are pictures of the limo and even the seat that was removed still exists. The limo went back to factory for overhaul. It still exists to this day. If you are going to condemn the CIA then provide evidence. They were mad at Kennedy is not acceptable.

You must think that Pearl Harbor was a conspiracy too dont you? After all there's just wayyy too many weird things that went on. The Japanese sailed across the entire pacific without being spotted, the planes were all bunched together, the battleships were all in a perfect line. It was just too perfect to be anything but a set up right?

 

Please quote where Humes says the autopsy was not done right. I have read it and not found a thing. Of curse it is very long.

 

exactly, they base everything on lies and lies and lies. Conspiracy junkies don't do their research, they just feed off each other, keep adding garbage to the pile and then the conpsiracy theories take a life of their own, all based on 'gut' feelings, lies, little inconsistencies (which in their mind is PROOF) etc... There may be a lot of evidence to the contrary but they ignore it and latch on to any little anomalies or inconsitencies and claim it's powerful evidence.

There was a special aired recently about all the secret service agents which travelled with JFK and they explained it all. It was very apparent that these guys LOVED Kenedy, they followed him everywhere and felt like they were around a rockstar. There's a part during the documentary where they talk about the conspiracy theories where they have even been implicated. You can see how deeply sad it makes them feel to know there are idiots out there who accuse them of being involved in killing a man they really liked and admired and would've given their life for.

As far as the doctor mentioned here, i saw an interview where this guy even admitted he never took a close look at the wounds; i think he even stated he didn't even bother to check the back as he was just trying to revive Kennedy. Apparently he said the frontal wound seemed like an exit wound but the guy didn't even check the back! and didn't perform the autopsy... who knows if he was even an expert on this. The ones who performed the autopsy said otherwise but of course, we are to believe this doctor who didn't even bother checking thoroughly? and the ones who performed the autopsy were under the CIA?

Almost all the conjspiracy theories have been debunked, destroyed and the fact is that evidence points to Oswald, a lot of it. Conpiracy theorists just claim it was all fabricated, planted but they can't prove anything... period.

The ONLY thing we don't know for sure is if Oswald made the kill on his account or under orders. I'm willing to be reasonable on this but to this date, no credible evidence has surfaced..

 

Again, thanks for once again showing you are doing nothing but making an assertion. You have no proof that Greer did anything other than freeze. There is no proof Greer as to Greer having ulterior motives. NONE.

If the bullet was shot from the front, why is the blood and brain mist clearly seen exiting the front of JFKs head? Why is blood, bone and brain matter found in the drivers compartment and on the back of Greer's Jacket?

 

This is exactly my opinion.

 

The bullet that killed Kennedy came from in front of the car.

 

Then explain to me why half of Kennedy's skull ends up on the trunk of the car?

 

Then why was there brain matter at the FRONT of the car?

 

Why wouldn't it?
the 6.5 round cracked it open like a melon..

 

All you have to do is watch frame 317 of the Zapruder film in slow motion. Kennedy's head jerks down and to the left on the initial impact, and the spray ofblood and brain matter goes up and to the front. This trajectory is completely consistent with the shot coming from above.

Of course conspiracy nuts will claim thr Zapruder film was altered.

 

I love how people who believe there was a conspiracy are always marginalized and called kooks or nuts. The vast majority of the people in this country, and even more around the world believe the Warren Commission was garbage. Are there really that many kooks? Maybe it's the minority who's crazy.

 

On November 22, 1963 everyone knew that the shot that killed Kennedy came from the front. That has been testified to, under oath, by the doctors who first saw Kennedy after he had been shot and the people who were there. Mac Kilduff was Kennedy's Assistant White House Press Secretary and he clearly points to the direction of the bullet that killed him. The cover-up started the next day. They were told to shut-up by the folks at Bethesda Naval Hospital and they did.

The Men Who Killed Kennedy