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  1. Robert E Allen

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    I agree, civil unions should be the law. But marriage left as a religious designation.


    Lots of conservatives have been arguing that the whole time.
     
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    Marriage never should have been law, it was a mistake to make it law, but too late now

    the government could have offered civil Unions for tax purposes for all marriages, marriage would be up to the person, could marry anyone or anything you wanted, as only the civil Union would be legally binding

    conservatives never argued to invalidate all legal marriages in this country and make them all civil unions

    in fact it was conservatives that argued civil unions should not have the same legal standing of marriage, that is why same-gender couples fought to get married so hard

    otherwise, they could have married at their church and got a civil union from the clerk like everyone else
     
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    No, they argued that in this example gays could have civil unions with the same protections as marriage.

    I agree with you though.
     
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    after conservatives were losing the fight, agree some did, but at that point there was no going back to that old fight

    everyone has to go civil unions, or everyone goes marriage - one or the other
     
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    True, at least not until the homosexual fad dies down a bit..
     
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    it will never change now, tons of legally married same sex couples out there, Conservatives will never be able to undo that

    and why undo it, no harm in it, who cares who someone else marries as long as they are a consenting adult
     
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    I'm not saying they will I'm saying in a decade or two people are gonna get bored with homosexuality and same sex marriages will decline on their own.
     
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    we debate the constitution all the time. If you don't want to participate in the debate, that's cool.
     
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    I do not think so, I won't get board with heterosexuality, will you? they are born that way same as we were

    only bi-sexuals have a choice, the rest of us have no choice
     
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    true, why voting is important, otherwise could get a Brexit or a Trump
     
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    I disagree, i think most homosexuals choose to be because it's popular to be so.

    There is no evidence that people are born that way there is some evidence that certain early life experiences contribute significantly to homosexuals later in life.
     
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    not hardly, that would be like saying next year you might not be heterosexual anymore, just not gonna happen, we are born this way

    have you ever had sexual attractions to both genders? only bi-sexuals are that way, not everyone

    I do understand how it could be hard for bi-sexuals to understand how the rest of us are not attracted to both genders, but it is the reality of it
     
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    Had this argument before, it is circular. We will have to agree to disagree.
     
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    it's not circular it's just a fact, only bi-sexuals have a choice

    I am heterosexual, I do not have a choice

    some people are homosexual and do not have a choice

    some are bi-sexual and do have a choice
     
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    I disagree
     
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    Nah gays wanted in your face, and now Trump is in charge he said in your face..

    Now you want to impeach him over it
     
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    so you think everyone is bi-sexual and everyone has a choice?
     
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    They have a choice to live in a decent environment
     
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    what? lol, trump could be gay for all I know, we have no way of knowing for sure what anyone is or is not hiding, nor do I care
     
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    Who you are attracted to may not. Be a choice but who you sleep with absolutely is.
     
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    I agree with that, but most people choose to sleep with one of those they are attracted too
     
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    3 wife's tells you something?

    I thought according to the left he was on Epstein plane?
     
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    they sleep in separate beds, like I said I do not know, nor care - could be a-sexual

    I think pedophile is a separate category - and we do not know who all Epstein brought into that sick world of his

    course he did have sex with a couple women on the side, one of which he said reminded him of his daughter, so probably hetero-sexual

    if he was gay, probably would have had affairs with men
     
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    Link?
     
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