Our education system could get a boost by copying Finland

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Seems like we do most things backwards.

 

Four things are noteworthy from that article:

1. Teachers are selected from the top 10% of graduates.

2. Teachers are given the same status as doctors and lawyers

3. All teachers in Finland must have a masters degree, which is fully subsidized

4. Finland has the same amount of teachers as New York City, but far fewer students

 

The list is an excellent guideline for excellence in education!

 

Our education system could get a boost by copying Saharan Africa

 

Like with a pogrom...where we end up with a monoculture....like Finland?

 

No, like with a decent education. Pretty obvious by any metric we choose that we're not getting one.

 

Our education system could get a boost by copying Cambodia

 

America offers some fantastic public school systems. Look toward any school district that's less than 4% black and latino and you'll almost always see way above national average test scores, college follow through, all that good stuff.

Why would that be? I have no idea.

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America offers some fantastic public school systems. Look toward any school district that's less than 4% black and latino and you'll almost always see way above national average test scores, college follow through, all that good stuff.

Why would that be? I have no idea.

 

What, not even a suspicion?

There is a high correlation between the education a child gets, and how important it is for the child's parents that their children are well educated. Most parents who regard education as highly important are themselves well educated, of course, but not necessarily. Even impoverished and poorly educated Asian parents do everything they can to encourage their childrens' education.

This is not to say all of the miserable US educational record has been due to lousy parenting, but that's certainly an important aspect of it.

 

Finland doesn't have an underbelly minority demographic with IQs in the room temperature range........its like saying we can drive this VW Beetle just as fast as the Masserati by pushing the peddle to the floor.......seriously people.....think before you post.

 

When you compare our best and brightest with the world, its nothing embarrassing and that's all the matters. We may have a lot of dummies, but we also produce the most innovators and leaders. As long as our best outperform everyone elses, I think we'll be OK. Besides, at the rate Finland is going, they're going to have to import a whole lot of people that are going to really mess up their little single demographic utopia they got going or risk extinction.

 

That's got to be it. The US has fallen well behind most of the world because we are saddled with retarded negroes and meskins and other degenerates. Can't possibly have anything to do with quality schools.

 

Just out of curiosity, are you familiar with any of the very serious school-age competitions across the US? They exist in literature, spelling, science, and other fields. Since these are American competitions, the winners are all Americans, of course. And they all have names like Rashandrahara, Hyoko, Xing, etc. Seriously, almost all of them.

There once was a time when the smartest people in the world flocked to the US because of the opportunities here. And they WERE here, opportunities for good education, for fame and riches and profound achievement. The US attracted entrepreneurs, scientists, writers, inventors, mathematicians. The US had the best graduate schools in the world, and attracted the best students, many of whom stayed in the US.

Today, the situation is reversed, and growing moreso. The best graduate schools in the world are in Japan and India, and top US students are going there to learn. Those schools were established by, and made world-renown by, graduates of US PhD programs who went home where the opportunities were greater. Biological research attracts the best US biologists overseas, where government knows enough to support R&D, rather than try to outlaw it or starve it as is now done in the US. Research funding in the US has gone the way of the space program and the superconducting supercollider - which is to say, to Europe and Asia.

Today the US leads the world in embarrassingly high-paying financial jobs, and embarrassingly low-paying menial service jobs. Our school system is degenerating, we don't fund R&D.

When my father graduated 1930 with a degree in chemistry, he had to learn German because that was the language of the state of the art in science. Today, the best scientists have to learn Chinese. But for a while, the US was really on top.

 

How about we copy what WE did before leftist loserism took over education...there's a fricking idea...

 

Perhaps you had a specific policy in mind for clarification.

 

Policy? No. Practice. Yes. We used to have the best educational system in the world until we unionized public employees and then policy took over and practice went to the way side.

 

Perhaps it has something to do with those same particular schools getting many times the funding that schools in poor neighborhoods get.

Just a guess....

 

That doesn't say a lot regards education and teaching.

 

Not alot to be said regarding education. We are failing at education. We used to not fail at education. Simple.

But, the fact remains that many things have changed, not only in education, but in society as well. I understand that you are asking a question, and would like an answer, but it would take a whole book to do so. We no longer allow prayer in school. We no longer allow administrators to instill discipline. We have devalued the family. We have devalued personal achievement. We have allowed people to teach very poor history. We have dumbed down math and science tests. Just to name a few of the many problems with education "policy" that never used to exist before failure, and its aceptence, to creep in because of unionized public employees.

 

The youth got tired of your Bible thumping.

 

Ha! I knew I would bait out the real you. Religious Atheist Fundamentalist.

 

I wonder how many descendants of black slaves and illegal aliens from Mexico live in Finland?

 

No, nice try.

 

Sorry Charlie. You revealed yourself. Can't put that cat back in the bag. Leftists are intolerant and hateful and call those with actual morals and values "bible thumpers" or some such drivel and pretend they are morally superior because they espouse such dogma.

 

I'm not atheist. I'm not even a materialist.

I am sure that you, with your accusations, have the moral upper-hand.