OVAL OFFICE FIGHT: President Trump, Chuck Schumer And Nancy Pelosi ARGUE Over Border Wall Funding

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  1. Raffishragabash

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    This is untrue upon many, layers, and starting with the outer layer of any unfair disregarding or unfair diminishing of the colossal effectiveness of the tax cut. Many companies did big things, thanks to the tax cut, and those big things resulted into a record-breaking economy over the past 15 months.

    You should always stay careful not to disregard (+) empirical realities, when trying to unfairly attack improvements Trump has brought.

    Obama rewarded GM with a bailout for fleecing its USA stakeholders, but we see now, Trump is about to punish them for closing those factories/fleecing their USA stakeholders. It's clear, which President is all about Americans.
     
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    Pelosi was trying to usher in professionalism. Transparency has a time and a place. Transparency is letting the public know what the bill about to be passed is, and what it will do.
     
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    Transparency would've been calling Trump's bluff, in that moment. Trump changed the rules, Trump changed the game, and the ball is in his corner.

    So you gotta beat him, at his game in every moment possible.


    Nancy could've easily went tit4tat with Trump, in that moment, to the degree which momentarily silences him about the wall plus energizes the base as well as make a statement of the hell in store for Trump over the next 2yrs.

    But, she failed to seize the moment, as her 'Professionalism' left the Dems looking foolish with another "L" on some important issue.
     
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    Republican Leader Kevin McCarthy: I’m 100% Sure We Have Votes to Pass Border Wall Funding
     
  5. ocean515

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    Yeah, I know... But Trump owns it.
     
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    Small price to pay to prove Pelosi, Schumer, and the New Democratic Party, don't think the security of US Citizens is worth $3.4 billion.
     
  8. ronv

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    Really?
    What part?
     
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    And quite honestly, Dairy, I surprised at how naive you must be if you think anything that OBAMA did while he ran a handout Welfare Circus for the Federal Reserve System was in any way his own 'brain-child'. Obama, himself, did NOTHING.

    The stock market went up because the Fed smashed interest rates down in the dirt (and kept them there), squandered hundreds of billions buying toxic trash 'bonds' (running up a FOUR TRILLION DOLLAR 'balance sheet' in the process), and 'rescued' those it thought were "too big to fail". Obama? He had NOTHING to do with that. Obama did what he was told to do -- in almost exactly the same way that "W" Bush did what HE was told to do by the Fed starting in the summer of 2007....

    Oh, BTW, the "ACA"...? Nothing but an unconstitutional pack of lies -- stacked one on top of another, packaged as "subsidies", but really nothing more or less than just another damned liberal Democrat welfare program. Bet you think he should have gotten another undeserved Nobel Prize for that, though... right?:party:

    Think, Dairy... do you really believe that some hyperliberal, socialist college teacher like Obama, who has never held a private-industry job in his life, actually knew anything about the ECONOMY of the United States of America?! No, no... for better or worse (and I've been convinced for years that it was for worse), Ben Bernanke and Janet Yellen made all the important decisions regarding the economy. Not Bush; not Obama; and, frankly, not Trump today. Trump may be a billionaire, but he's nothing but a 'small potato' where the Fed is concerned....
     
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  10. dairyair

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    Other than the tax cut to give some a slightly larger paycheck at the expense of increasing spending and increasing the debt and deficit, he hasn't accomplished anything.
     
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    I know what happened prior to his taking office. With the housing boom, bush and the every American in their home act adding fuel to the already inflated housing bubble.
    I know about the 2 wars that he got us into for the next 2 decades
    I know the housing bubble crashed and a boom ensued and the greatest recession to hit the country since the great depression happened.
    I know the prez is mostly a figure head.
    But there was the bailouts, which I disagreed with at the time, especially the banking industry.
    There was the increase of social programs for those who were ousted out of their jobs.
    UE benefits extended.
    All those things were ridiculed by you and your RW. But they helped people from losing everything. Even though many lost their homes.

    And I am surprised you think the R party is all roses. And obama accomplished nothing.
    My mistake thinking you think.
     
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    You mean the one that paved a path to citizenship for people who have been ripping off US Taxpayers, and did little to improve border security beyond "setting goals", and did nothing to address the abuse of illegals claiming amnesty?

    That would be great if she did bring it up. I wonder how she would look wearing a barrel.
     
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    Wrong again, Dairy, if you think that Reagan-Republicans (like myself) find much of anything in today's RINO-Republican Party to be very happy about. I voted for Trump primarily because you on the Left couldn't put up anyone better than Hillary Clinton -- the absolute worst choice the Democrat Party could have made in 2016.

    People bought way too much "house" before the Recession, and it never even entered their pea-sized brains that something could go wrong. So, because they thought they could get rich quick flipping houses, and live large by borrowing against houses they couldn't afford to buy in the first place, a lot of them got themselves into trouble. TOO BAD, SO SAD. But, along came Obama to the rescue, because the Fed needed a politically-correct 'poster-child' to keep the 'cattle' from kicking down the 'corral'.

    But never fear, with the passing of every day it becomes clearer to me that Trump will be forced out of office -- and the truth is that in many ways he brought it on himself! So, we'll have Mike Pence until January 2021 after Trump's gone. And then if radical Democrats sweep back into total power in 2020, the American horror story will continue unabated. Nobody will be happier than Vladimir Putin and Xi Jinping! :twisted:
     
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    You know, outside the 2 prez's that had the WW's, Reagan increased debt and deficits by the largest percent of every other prez in history.
    Also, I don't think tRUMPers would give Reagan the time of day today. Reagan worked with the D's, todays partisans will barely talk to them.
    So, Reagan would be a RINO in todays world.
    Again, me on the left. I didn't vote for prez, because both stunk so bad, even holding my nose would not work
    So save your ad hom BS.
    I thought that was beneath you. Now I know that is just you.
    Thanks for the enlightenment. Have a good nite.
     
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    It's really pretty good. You should read it.
    It's a little complicated for Trump, but maybe they could do a briefing in pictures.

    [​IMG]
     
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    With facts or ficts.
     
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    Wouldn't my description of what the Gang of Eight came up with suggest I am familiar with it's contents?

    Hello?
     
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    Unlikely but no one actually expects that you would.
     
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    So with nothing of value to offer, you reach up to offer an Ad Hom.

    Too funny.
     
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    No.
     
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    The victim whine with a gob of blamelessness.......priceless.
     
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    At least the image is honest about the Democratic Party. It is far less of a national party, then it is an ideological party. So it's of no surprise that they don't serve the United States and to the extent they pretend, they call it opposing the President.
     
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    Non sequitur opine.
     
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    No different from "Republicans are white supremacist neo-nazis!"
     

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