Just paste up a quote from my post that you disagree with. Try that. It will only hurt for a minute or two.
Fake News. In our Constitutional Liberal Democracy the State is Free to regulate our bodies so long as the regulation passes the Rational Basis test. I expect Dobbs to easily pass that test.
The SC can say anything passes rational basis review, and I'd guess these Catholic Republicans will do so in this case. But, any rational inspection would result in the realization that the government doesn't have a justifiable objective in controlling a woman's body. Besides that, the government is a totally blunt instrument. They can't (and don't) right laws that take care of the medical, financial, educational, psychological issues involved. And, even if they DID we KNOW that these laws are NOT the only way to achieve a reduction in abortion rate. And, THAT is part of rational basis review, too. In fact, legislatures have not even contemplated other methods. Republican Christians want these laws FAR MORE than they want fewer abortions. You can see that by simply noticing what they have done and what they have NOT done.
You seem to have an irrational hatred for both Catholics and Republicans. I find that haters seldom mount coherent rational arguments, but, hope springs eternal. In your opinion: is the Elected Legislature unable to legitimately regulate only a womans' body, or anyones' body? Does the Elected Legislature have a rational basis for regulating whether a person can traffic their body for sex? Does the Elected Legislature have a rational basis for regulating when a 15-18 year old can consent to sex? Those are issues you are free to litigate, and should. I'm not interested in discussing your anti-Christian and anti-Republican hate. I find that hate based arguments are generally free from facts or logic and so not worth the time spent on them. Dobbs is a perfectly rational pro-choice regulation that with 15 weeks of unrestricted abortion is more permissive than most of Europe and all of France. It balances the needs of the mother to not carry a pregnancy that she does not want to bring to term, while protecting the baby once it has developed a heart beat, a central nervous system and the ability to feel pain. Roe only guaranteed unrestricted abortion for 13 weeks.
The are running the court exactly as one would expect from a court made of right wing religious activists. That doesn't mean I hate Catholics. It means I hate having a court more interested in personal and religious objectives than in the constitution. This isn't France. And, the court assault on women's rights is not the only assault on women's rights. We also have organizations collecting the names, phone numbers and HOME ADDRESSES of women who seek abortion and providing those lists to anti-abortion activists who then ARE harassing women, as well as lining up their sights on $20K bounties from Texas. There is a pattern here. And, the hate IS coming from religious activists.
The draft majority decision is completely founded on our Constitutional Liberal Democracy not Catholicism. A standard of 15 weeks of unrestricted abortion is more permissive than most of the Western World. It is a perfectly reasonable standard. It is the position of the abortion absolutists that is extreme and unreasonable. Dobbs was written by the Elected State Legislature not an unelected court. If birthing people are being illegally harassed, report their harassers to the authorities. The HOME ADDRESSES of members of the Court have been provided to Abortion Extremists and you never said squat. The pattern is your hatred of the religious.
TX is $10k not $20k and I don't think that 6 weeks is enough time either. Roberts wants to save Roe and dump Casey which would guarantee unrestricted abortion for 13 weeks. If the 3 Leftwing Justices would join him, he might be able to pick off Kavanaugh, but, the Lefties may be too absolutist to compromise and certainly Schumer and Pelosi are giving them no room to work with the Chief Justice on an accomodation like that.
FoxHastings said: ↑ You never answered the question : WHY do opponents of abortion want it banned? THIS is from YOUR post, why can't you address it? ""many opponents of legal abortion say it should be legal in some circumstances, MAY 6, 2022."" ....which is completely illogical. Why "some" circumstances if it's "murder"? IF you do not want to answer those 'awkward " questions then don't post things pertaining to them YES and others want partial bans and that leads to the UNANSWERED question: WHY do opponents of abortion want it banned? EVEN partially ? It's either "murder" or it's not and THAT is what is ILLOGICAL. Killing a fetus through abortion is murder SOMETIMES but not others ???? WHY? HOW? SEE ABOVE. Yes, it IS extremism to call abortion murder. And it is completely illogical to say it's banned because it's murder but ONLY SOMETIMES!!!
LOL! Scroll back to my first reply and this time actually read it. Logic is seldom a priority in the democratic legislative process. Get woke.
FoxHastings said: ↑ You never answered the question : UNANSWERED : WHY do opponents of abortion want it banned? THIS is from YOUR post, why can't you address it? ""many opponents of legal abortion say it should be legal in some circumstances, MAY 6, 2022."" UNANSWERED : ....which is completely illogical. Why "some" circumstances if it's "murder"? IF you do not want to answer those 'awkward " questions then don't post things pertaining to them YES and others want partial bans and that leads to the UNANSWERED question: UNANSWERED : WHY do opponents of abortion want it banned? EVEN partially ? It's either "murder" or it's not and THAT is what is ILLOGICAL. Killing a fetus through abortion is murder SOMETIMES but not others ???? SEE ABOVE. Yes, it IS extremism to call abortion murder. And it is completely illogical to say it's banned because it's murder but ONLY SOMETIMES!!! Scroll back ? To what? MORE UNANSWERED questions and dodges?? No, don't think so.
LOL! I have answered all your questions fully. "Scroll back to my first reply and this time actually read it. Logic is seldom a priority in the democratic legislative process." Ddy Read that again -- carefully-- and you will find the answer to all your questions. "Grasshopper, seek first to know your own journeys beginning and end...But in this seeking, know patience." Master Po.
LOL without all your stupid antiquated grasshopper crap you could have just answer the questions or REPOSTED this mysterious post you claim you made...BUT, no, you just DODGED again And none of the other Anti-Choicers could either....pathetic.... FoxHastings said: ↑ You never answered the question : UNANSWERED : WHY do opponents of abortion want it banned? THIS is from YOUR post, why can't you address it? ""many opponents of legal abortion say it should be legal in some circumstances, MAY 6, 2022."" UNANSWERED : ....which is completely illogical. Why "some" circumstances if it's "murder"? IF you do not want to answer those 'awkward " questions then don't post things pertaining to them YES and others want partial bans and that leads to the UNANSWERED question: UNANSWERED : WHY do opponents of abortion want it banned? EVEN partially ? It's either "murder" or it's not and THAT is what is ILLOGICAL. Killing a fetus through abortion is murder SOMETIMES but not others ???? Yes, it IS extremism to call abortion murder. And it is completely illogical to say it's banned because it's murder but ONLY SOMETIMES!!! Scroll back ? To what? MORE UNANSWERED questions and dodges??
“Yes, Grasshopper. But can any man afford such arrogance?” Master Po You do not even have to scroll back. You just have to read the answer to all your questions: "Logic is seldom a priority in the democratic legislative process." Ddy
FoxHastings said: ↑ LOL without all your stupid antiquated grasshopper crap you could have just answer the questions or REPOSTED this mysterious post you claim you made...BUT, no, you just DODGED again And none of the other Anti-Choicers could either....pathetic.... FoxHastings said: ↑ You never answered the question : UNANSWERED : WHY do opponents of abortion want it banned? THIS is from YOUR post, why can't you address it? ""many opponents of legal abortion say it should be legal in some circumstances, MAY 6, 2022."" UNANSWERED : ....which is completely illogical. Why "some" circumstances if it's "murder"? IF you do not want to answer those 'awkward " questions then don't post things pertaining to them YES and others want partial bans and that leads to the UNANSWERED question: UNANSWERED : WHY do opponents of abortion want it banned? EVEN partially ? It's either "murder" or it's not and THAT is what is ILLOGICAL. Killing a fetus through abortion is murder SOMETIMES but not others ???? Yes, it IS extremism to call abortion murder. And it is completely illogical to say it's banned because it's murder but ONLY SOMETIMES!!! Scroll back ? To what? MORE UNANSWERED questions and dodges?? I do have to admit that your complete ducking and dodging of the questions is quite artful..... but then NO other Anti-Choicer has ever answered those "awkward" questions either.... and I know why ...
And yet you keep dodging the answer you asked for: "Logic is seldom a priority in the democratic legislative process." Ddy
You really think a majority of Americans are that hell bent on the right to kill babies (and no matter what you call them that is ultimately what they are).
Honestly who really cares about abortion except blue hair freaks and male feminists. Liberals certainly don’t care or else they would have made abortions lawful in the last 50 or so years they had control over the entire government. It’s not like women don’t have birth control and control of the courts for that matter. Free money and pitty for life. Every feminists dream.
No, No. I think that the majority are against abortion. And any polls that say otherwise are based on people lying on the poll. But how else will women not suffer death from child birth, how else will women not have critically disabled children, and how else can women retain their reproductive rights?
I care nothing about "reproductive rights" when exercising such rights ends a human life. Not many women die from childbirth in this country.
Yes, many do....and why do you infer it's not so bad that women die because "not many " die??? What a callous attitude towards PRECIOUS LIFE. You seem to care nothing about rights unless they are yours...
You have the staggering hypocrtical audacity to post something like that when you don't give a damn about "precious life".
FoxHastings said: ↑ Yes, many do....and why do you infer it's not so bad that women die because "not many " die??? What a callous attitude towards PRECIOUS LIFE. You seem to care nothing about rights unless they are yours... You have the staggering hypocritical audacity to post something like that when you CLAIM to give a damn about "precious life".
Copying someone else's post as your own in a response shows intellectual bankruptcy. You ever thought of thinking for yourself?