Paid Parental Leave: How Republicans Learned To Love A Democratic Priority

https://www.npr.org/2019/12/13/7876...blicans-learned-to-love-a-democratic-priority

It looks like Republicans are seeing the light the light on a key issue Democrats have been pushing for some time now.

I for one applaud the presidents willingness to reach across the aisle to promote what should be commonsense bipartisan legislaton.

Hopefully as Rebublicans follow the president they too will realize the benifit of extended leave in the private sector.

Does this show a shift in the Republican party to the Party of Trump?
Will this positively impact Trump support amongst federal workers?
Should all maternity leave be extended?

Good job Trump, MAGA!

 

It blew my mind to find out that you guys don't get mat leave, or even sick days.

 

Who are "you guys"? This is something employers provide own their own. My job provides this.

 

Sorry, I meant in America.

In Canada, it's mandated by the Govt that employers must provide a minimum of these things to all employees. We don't have to negotiate for it on an individual contract level.

 

The problem is you're never going to be able to force the private sector to extend leave. The government is going to have to do it, which means higher taxes.

 

We get like, 3 weeks leave and they can't fire you, but no federally guaranteed pay. I honestly need to get my family out a this country, but I love it so! Still, if Trump of all people can support extending paid leave at some levels in some sectors, who knows? By the time my grand kids are having babies we'll have these basic protections?

 

PS, this is dear to my heart cuz' I just had a baby!

 

Every state has their own Family Leave Insurance program which provides the minimum, but it is only in excess to what employers decide to provide on their own. Some places provide for 4 weeks (Rhode Island) while others provide 10 weeks (New York). My employer provides me 24 weeks, if and when the time will occur that I choose to raise a family.

It can be extended to some more states, but this requires these states to become high tax states, which they don't want to do.

 

My state only provides me 10 weeks, but my employer provides 24 weeks. Sounds like you need a new career, not a new place to live...

 

Does no one know anything about FMLA? Some civil employers provide pay, some half pay, when maternity is involved. It is not mandated, and never should be, just as mandating health insurance had some nasty effects on employment and pay, so would mandating paid maternity leave.

For anybody educated enough to understand the impacts of mandating costs to the employer based on employment, understands what an employer will base a pay scale on, and employment taxes, required insurances, benefits and perks are all a part of that calculation. The more the government requires an employer to give, the less the actual rate of payment will be to compensate for it.

Some women do not return to work, for various reasons. Some of those effects are discussed here: https://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclop...after-maternity-leave-issues-to-consider.html

 

I dunno, never had children! But my last job, right to work state, non-union I "After first year" received two weeks paid vacation, five paid personal business days and 10 sick days that were cumulative and funeral leave 3 days in state 7days out of state.. After five years service I had five week Vacation, five days Personal business days and 50 sick days plus indefinite long term leave/medical at 100% pay..

Pretty fair! Like I said, never had children but I suppose the vacation time would have been sufficient in my case..

 

How is maternity leave a protection? It's hardly a mystery when a women is going to give birth "Give or take" most guys here use vacation time or personal time.. And after first one they seem to enjoy going to WORK and more over time

And the Latino's, well they just take a phone call and expect dinner when they get home.. And that aint no bullshit!!

 

Grats! Now where is my celebratory BLUNT!!

 

Mandatory paid maternity leave is authoritarian. Freedom loving people should absolutely reject the notion. Big government/authoritarian people should love it.

Seriously, why should an employee's decision to have a child legally place an extra burden on the employer? If the employer has no say in the original decision, how can he be held responsible? Trump is wrong on this one. The employer is not the child's father.

Pure anti-liberty, authoritarian BS.

 

It likely wouldn’t be on the employer, it would be on the taxpayer.

 

I'm in Georgia, I believe ours is 12 weeks but longer if the mom had a Csection. Some companies will pay a % of your check during that time, others don't but have to hold your job during maternity leave. When I had my girls, I honestly didn't know about short term disability and still really don't in the case of maternity leave, I think that would fall under FMLA (? right?).

 

In the mail should arrive any day

 

Ugh. No way I wanna deal with Insurance companies down there. I heard one guy saying he could get a car insurance plan with only 60k in coverage. That's insane to me. Min up here is 2mil.

As for taxes? I pay flat 10% provincial tax. 22% federal. I get "free" health care and labor protections for that. I consider it entirely reasonable.

That's good for you. Such a mish mash of coverage though. I'd rather be able to love anywhere in my country and have the same protections.

 

The Government does not belong involved here. Plenty of employers to gain the best people offer it willingly. Let the marketplace decide.

 

No government employee should have a benefit not available to those they serve. As it is, much of our work day goes towards government employee pensions and benefits.

Do you know how many people work for the government?


About half of them!

 

Oh...

Taxpayer funded maternity leave is authoritarian. Freedom loving people should absolutely reject the notion. Big government/authoritarian people should love it.

Seriously, why should a citizen's decision to have a child legally place an extra burden on the taxpayer? If the taxpayer has no say in the original decision, how can he be held responsible? Trump is wrong on this one. The taxpayer is not the child's father.

Pure anti-liberty, authoritarian BS.

 

If the taxpayer is forcing her to carry the child to term why should those individuals not be on the hook to provide maternity leave?

 

If your forced to care for you child till they are 18 why shouldnt they mandate 100% paid sick days for you children?

 

The government shouldnt force private businesses what to do.

 

Might seem off topic but gender pay (in)equality plays in this debate.