No. Why won't you admit the truth? The violence in Palestine was started by the Zionists. Current violence is a direct result. End of.
You said: "by reference to the San Remo Resolution, I assume you are really talking about the Balfour Declaration". Which means that you suggest that somehow San Remo Resolution is Balfour Decleration, that somehow San Remo Resolution is identical to Balfour Decleration- that is not true.What you gave here is irrelevent to what I talked. I know what is San Remo Resolution and what is San Remo conference. Israel already offered Arabs to return to their properties, but they refused. So now Israel is to blame for something that the Arabs didnt want?
If you want to be pedantic, so can I. The San Remo Resolution was an outcome of the conference. If you had read the link I posted, you would have seen: "The article concerning Palestine was debated on April 24 and the next day it was finally resolved to incorporate the Balfour Declaration in Britain's mandate in Palestine." I appreciate that you might not be fully conversant with the English language, so I will enlighten you. A RESOLUTION is 'something that is resolved'. What was RESOLVED at that conference was that the Balfour Declaration be incorporated in Britain's mandate in Palestine. That being the case, and the BD being the main (if not only) item of interest to the Jews at that time, the BD constituted the main thrust of the resolution. Which is probably why Weizmann, Sokolow and Samuel were the ones to present the British delegation with the memorandum in the first place. What, then, in your opinion or with supported knowledge, was the resolution all about?
There is an order from 1926 went from the Controller of Permits to the Northern District Commissioner, with a copyto Chief Secretery: Also in a report by the PMC in 1935 says the same: The report is a report by M Palacios, September 3, 1935, minutes of the 29th session, Permanent Mandates Commission, Annex 6, P. 187. Also in the Hope-Simpson Report, A British report, was written about the illicit Arab immigration: Source: https://unispal.un.org/DPA/DPR/unispal.nsf/0/E3ED8720F8707C9385256D19004F057C
The Balfour Decleration is forming the base for the San Remo Resolution, but it does not mean they are the same- identical, as you try to argue. For instence, if a phone stand is allowing for the phone to be placed, which means this stand is the base for the telephone, does it means that the telephone is the stand?
Ok, lets end this silliness. British Mandate for Palestine. Got it, the official document was for Palestine, nothing about Israel, not one mention of a Jewish State, the indigenous populations have to live in a Jew Country, with Jew Laws and Jew Culture. The rights of the indigenous population were trampled on. Jew immigration both legal and illegal changed the entire culture. Coins from the mandatory period show the extent that the german jew zionists collaborated with the Nazis as I have shown. (b) IMMIGRATION AND NATURAL INCREASE 15. These changes in the population have been brought about by two forces: natural increase and immigration. The great increase in the Jewish population is due in the main to immigration. From 1920 to 1946, the total number of recorded Jewish immigrants into Palestine was about 376,000, or an average of over 8,000 per year. The flow has not been regular, however, being fairly high in 1924 to 1926, falling in the next few years (there was a net emigration in 1927) and rising to even higher levels between 1933 and 1936 as a result of the Nazi persecution in Europe. Between the census year of 1931 and the year 1936, the proportion of Jews to the total population rose from 18 per cent to nearly 30 per cent. 16. The Arab population has increased almost entirely as a result of an excess of births over deaths. Indeed, the natural rate of increase of Moslem Arabs in Palestine is the highest in recorded statistics,1 a phenomenon explained by very high fertility rates coupled with a marked decline in death rates as a result of improved conditions of life and public health, The natural rate of increase of Jews is also relatively high, but is conditioned by a favorable age distribution of the population due to the high rate of immigration. https://unispal.un.org/DPA/DPR/unispal.nsf/0/07175DE9FA2DE563852568D3006E10F3 As the UN report shows the Jews from Europe swarmed into Palestine!
RE: Palestine: Fact or fiction ※→ RiaRaeb, et al, The intent of the Allied Powers in 1919 (League of Nations Charter), was to create a series of independent and self-governing states, and a permanent place of refuge for the Jewish People [as stated: The Jewish National Home (JNH)]. The purpose of the JNH was to protect the continued existence of the people and culture, from the capricious action by the ruling elite, and the malfeasance by government under the color of law. I would like to make this quote from the British that concerns the attitude of the Hostile Arab Palestine that has not changed at all in nearly a century. 22. Later in 1923, a third attempt was made to establish an institution through which the Arab population of Palestine could be brought into cooperation with the government. The mandatory Power now proposed “the establishment of an Arab Agency in Palestine which will occupy a position exactly analogous to that accorded to the Jewish Agency”. The Arab Agency would have the right to be consulted on all matters relating to immigration, on which it was recognised that “the views of the Arab community were entitled to special consideration”. The Arab leaders declined that this offer on the ground that it would not satisfy the aspirations of the Arab people. They added that, never having recognised the status of the Jewish Agency, they had no desire for the establishment of an Arab Agency on the same basis. “The British Government desired to establish a self-government in Palestine, but to proceed in this direction by stages…. It had been announced that the nominated Advisory Council was to be the first stage. The second stage would have been a Legislative Council without an Arab majority. If this worked satisfactorily, the third stage, after a lapse of perhaps same years, would have been a constitution on more democratic lines.” In practice it proved impossible even to initiate this policy of gradual constitutional development. From 1922 until the present day, the High Commissioner has governed Palestine with the aid of Councils consisting exclusively of British officials. SOURCE: "Political History of Palestine under British Administration" A/AC.14/8 2 October 1947 The JNH was a generalized term for this action that could include anything from a Semi-autonomous Jewish Region ⇒ thru ⇒ an Independent Sovereignty. The United Nations Special Committee on Palestine (UNSCOP) REPORT ( as cited and linked: A/364 3 September 1947) was not a decision by any stretch of the imagination and came a quarter of a century after the Article 22 - League of Nations Covenant; and during a time when the Middle East was still under the Occupied Enemy Territory Administration (OETA) of the WWI Allied Powers. And by that time, under the 1918 Armistice of Mudros, under the 1920 Treaty of Sevres, and finally the 1923/1924 Treaty of Lausanne, both the Ottoman Empire and the the Turkish had renounced all rights and title whatsoever over or respecting the territories situated outside the frontiers as well as ⇒ "the future of these territories and islands being settled or to be settled by the parties concerned." [Article 16 (Part I - Political Clauses → Section I - Territories → last phrase first paragraph), The Treaty of Lausanne] In 1901, the Ottoman Sultan Between the adoption of the 1917 Balfour Declaration (of a century ago) and the 1948 Israeli Declaration of Independence (a half century ago), in three decades, there were several historical event factors that caused change. There were Arab-Jewish Riots, the rise of the Palestinian Black Hand, the effects of a second World War (the Holocaust), and a territorial Civil War. An interesting precursor to The Great War (28 July 1914 – 11 November 191, relevant to the regional issue of the Jews, were: This too, was a factor set that influenced to the due consideration of a JNH. It was the adoption of the UNSCOP majority recommendation A/RES/181(II) 29 November 1947, wherein the Part II - Boundaries → Section B - The Jewish State, that forced the end-game. And it was the immediate entry of the Arab League Members that directly set the conditions for conflict with the Arab Palestinians; the permanent international boundaries having been set by the Treaties Israels has with Jordan and Egypt. But none of this is important today. Why, because you can talk until you are blue in the face, about how Israel and the Hostile Arab Palestinians (HoAP) should resolve the issues (under the permanent status of negotiations) using the Declaration on Principles of International Law concerning Friendly Relations and Co-operation among States. The HoAP have, since The Khartoum Resolutions; September 1, 1967, have adhered to the "three no's policy:" ✪ no peace with Israel, ✪ no recognition of Israel, ✪ no negotiations, And it is not likely to change. Most Respectfully, R
All over the world Muslims are the source of most violence.. Arabs are the face of it. Palestinian Bedouins are the source of violence in that area.
Eastern European jew migrants are mostly the source of all violence in the middle east, they have 5th columnists in most countries stirring up trouble.
Oh, coins certainly say lots of things. This, however, is not "coins". It's a medallion - which should be quite obvious due to the lack of any nominal value (aka "number") on the supposed coin - issued by the German newspaper Der Angriff to commemorate a visit by Leopold von Mildenstein to Palestine. http://www.tlaxcala-int.org/article.asp?reference=17904 http://www.britishempire.co.uk/maproom/palestine/travelpalestine.htm I'm quite sure you'll use the above image again, baptizing the medallion "coins" to support anti-Zionist prejudices and hatred, because finding real facts to support virulent anti-Zionism is mission impossible.
Oh let me educate you then, Commemorative Coin, a pretty standard saying for native english speakers, in fact in your link it is described thus, Coin issued to commemorate a visit to Palestine by SS officer Leopold von Mildenstein http://www.britishempire.co.uk/maproom/palestine/travelpalestine.htm And the the other article it starts with a lie. TAKE THE ex-mayor of London, Ken Livingstone. The things he says are ridiculous indeed. Even for a politician. For example, he said the Adolf Hitler was a Zionist, or a lover of Zionists. He simply said no such thing, and I ask you to show where he did. The writer of the article is a liar. But as is usual you want to argue whether it is a coin or a medallion and ignore the collaboration between German Zionists Jews and the Nazis. I will use the above image again, and thanks to you provide the source and story of why this commemorative coin was produced. Now please apologise for accusing me of "baptizing the medallion "coins" to support anti-Zionist prejudices and hatred" when your own link calls it a coin.
Well... The row first erupted when Mr Livingstone, who was defending MP Naz Shah over claims she had made anti-Semitic social media posts, said: "When Hitler won his election in 1932, his policy then was that Jews should be moved to Israel. He was supporting Zionism before he went mad and ended up killing six million Jews." http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-39498275 The amount of wrongness in this post is overwhelming. "But as is usual you want to argue whether it is a coin or a medallion" - no. I argued whether it's a medallion or COINS. Yes, you used the term "coins", which implies that several such items were allegedly issued for financial transactions between Nazis and Zionists. It's a commemorative medallion issued by a German newspaper, not "coins". It's not money. But as is usual you want to build your anti-Zionist arguments on vague hints, winks, and a lot of verbal gymnastics to hide lack of tangible proof. "the collaboration between German Zionists Jews and the Nazis" - well, maybe you have a crystal ball to show you the future, but German Jews in the early 30's did not enjoy such privilege. Accusing Jews for something they did long before the atrocities of WWII as if they knew what will the Nazis do in the next decade is at least dishonest. Besides, Nazis were the German government, not some underdog-ish shadowy fringe freaks, so yes, when German Jews sought solutions to their problems, it was only natural they'd turn to their own government. Who else could they turn to?
So as we can see the writer in the article you quoted lied. So you still do not want to accept that you provided a source that called it a commemorative coin! You provided the tangible proof! I have also highlighted where you have simply made up what you think was implied, again to point out the honesty of the poster who creates strawmen. Again it was German Zionist Jews that collaborated with the Nazis, not German Jews, do not change what I write. I have bolded the original text and where you have then changed to German Jews and then Jews in general, so people can see your level of honesty and how you have changed the subject!
Palestine is Jordan, Look at my signature. The illegal Arabs which settled in the holy land are Beduoins .. You call them Palestinians, Don't you ?
What does it take to be a nation... A flag? A national anthem? An Olympic sport team? An army? Shiny buildings? None of that colonial crap, IMO: What makes a nation is common history with the land, and a common language, culture and customs. Under these parameters, Jews were also a nation before Israel, except that the link with the land was problematic. Palestinians, for their part, fill all of these since centuries. Both are semitic nations. Un-supported, that they were. Your light tone belies the fact that you tried to pass these enormous things as an accepted reality. It isn't. If I were to correct you, I would have to intervene in your text after every 6 words or so. I started doing so but I had to let go of it since it was getting more and more ridiculous.
Nice reference. The near totality of your post wouldn't be necessary if you were educated in history, or just curious about it. You are not. You are merely cheerleading. Your ignorance is un-acceptable, even moreso as thread subject. Go to Wikipedia and type "Palestine" into the search bar and read the text that will appear on your screen, then bother your betters if there's something you didn't understand.
Indeed I do. I do, because the area defined (and recognised) after the end of WW1 was named Palestine. People who live(d) in Palestine, to my mind, are Palestinians; just as native Germans live in Germany, native English live in England, etc. Tell me, what were those people of Jewish faith who resided in this fictitious state known as before 1947? It is my contention that they were Palestinians (and still are, if they reside in the West Bank or the Golan).
They have been there before the 12th century, Ron. Do you really believe that the Romans emptied the land down to the local farmers? Those evicted were the elite, of course - the rest of the people are vital to the Roman economy, the ports that were there, the roads - come on Ron. Even in the questionnable advent of a United Kingdom of Israel, there would have been other semitic peoples than the Jews in Canaan. The Palestinians are the very same semitic people that always were there since times immemorial. The break between Jews and Palestinians is exculsively religious, faith-based rather than blood-based.
Bravo! So many people do not understand what constitutes a country, a nationality, or an ethnic identity. But I can forgive Americans because, after all, there is no nationality called "United Statsian" so how should they be expected to understand anything beyond their own borders?
