Palestinian farmer killed by Israeli strike in Gaza

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  1. alexa

    alexa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    A Palestinian farmer Omar Samour, has been shot dead in Khan Yunis by Israeli snipers while working his fields in Gaza. 27 Palestinians have also been wounded by Israel forces this morning.

    The link points out that this appears to be the first shots in an Israeli attack on an intended demonstration to commemorate Land Day when in March 30, 1976 six Citizens of Israel of Palestinian descent were killed for Protesting land confiscations.

    Peaceful protest by Palestinians are against the law. Hence Israel calls them 'illegal assemblies' or riots and attacks and kills those on them. This of course is against International humanitarian law making a lie of Israel being a democracy. It also shows the lie of Gaza not being occupied.

    The Demonstration today is also going to set off six weeks of demonstrations at the US intention to move it's embassy to Jerusalem and support Israel while she annexes more land that was to have been the Palestinian State and in reality ends any hope of any just resolution. As we can see Israel has already killed one and injured 27 and it is still the morning of the first day.

    Do you Americans support your country in acting illegally to take over the land of the people who have been living there for up to 5,000 years and whose genetics suggest they are the nearest biological descendants of the ancient Jews. Do you agree with Israel that the best way to deal with any protest is to kill and wound until they succumb and given the refusal to allow peaceful protest obviously leaves the Palestinians with no other way of protest than terrorism how can you morally accept this or have we now reached a point where any concept of morality from the US perception is null and void - it is just go for what you want and to hell with everyone else....we have the might so we will make it right?


    https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2018...lled-israeli-strike-gaza-180330053808314.html

    on the right of protest for Palestinians
    https://www.acri.org.il/en/protestright-subject/freedom-of-expression-and-protest/
     
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    alexa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    To give a bit more idea on the Israeli intention on responding to Palestinians justifiable desire to protest the movement of the US Embassy to Jerusalem and the total destruction of any possibility to a just peace which they have been waiting for for over 20 years.

    Yet the Palestinian organizers of the “Great March of Return” insist that their movement is nonviolent. “We’re against stone throwing or even burning tires,” Gaza-based organizer Hasan al-Kurd told +972 Magazine this week. “We will make sure the protest doesn’t escalate to violence — at least from our end.”

    It is the Israeli side that worries the march’s organizers. In Gaza they have been watching with no small amount of anxiety as the Israeli security establishment, through the echo-chamber of Israeli media outlets, has framed their march as a Hamas event. They understand that introducing Hamas into the equation serves as an a priori justification for Israel to employ violence against them; for if the marchers are inherently violent, then surely deploying 100 snipers is a reasonable precaution.

    Hamas’s participation, however nominal or considerable it may be, is a non-sequitur. Even if the Islamist movement’s role in the march is larger than the organizers are willing to admit, history teaches us that Israeli security forces will employ violence against the marchers anyway. Hamas is a convenient excuse but one that isn’t actually necessary. Israel has never needed a justification to violently suppress Palestinian political activity — especially when masses take to the streets.[/quote]

    https://972mag.com/how-israel-is-predetermining-a-violent-outcome-for-gaza-return-march/134157/

    and as the first post says they (Israel) have already got started killing one farmer and wounding 27 as Israel suppresses the Palestinian right to non violent protest against the actions primarily in this instance of the US.
     
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    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    And this is what your own article says...

    “A Palestinian farmer has been killed by Israeli artillery fire near Khan Yunis in Gaza, the Palestinian health ministry said”...

    https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2018...lled-israeli-strike-gaza-180330053808314.html

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    alexa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    got into wrong thread deleted
     
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    alexa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Nope just your inability to understand. They article says they are surrounded by Israeli snipers. The article gives no evidence of anyone else shooting him. I therefore assumed it was the snipers and will assume it is them unless you give any proof it was just a lone Israeli soldier who wanted to kill Palestinians.
    You are also lying about the way I post. You maybe, not me.
     
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    here if you want it from the article

    It remains as I said. There is no mention of any other Israeli killers than the snipers who are ready to kill Palestinians involved in Land day and protests against the US moving its Embassy to Jerusalem and closing any possibility of a just peace - apart from a one state solution with equal rights. Already one person has been killed and 27 wounded. As the 972 article said Israel does not consider herself a Gandhi does not have the patience to supervise non violent demonstrations which are not allowed by Palestinians anyway and Israel expects to kill. Even if the protests are peaceful as the Palestinians say 'There will be Palestinians casualties, the generals told Israel’s security cabinet.'

    https://972mag.com/how-israel-is-predetermining-a-violent-outcome-for-gaza-return-march/134157/

    already one is dead and 27 injured and they haven't even started the protest. When people are killed for non violent protesting or working their fields what difference is there between this and terrorism?
     
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    So-called "peaceful" protests by the so-called "Palestinians" is simply a ruse to generate the inevitable violence against Israel!
     
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    alexa,

    From the article in yes your OP

    A Palestinian farmer has been killed by Israeli artillery fire near Khan Yunis in Gaza, the Palestinian health ministry said”...

    Artillery fire!!!
     
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    There is no such nation as 'Palestine'...the name is simply a geographic designation like 'death valley' in California. These so-called "Palestinians" are actually Jordanians, and should go back there if they want a home!
     
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    https://972mag.com/how-israel-is-predetermining-a-violent-outcome-for-gaza-return-march/134157/

    and as the first post says they (Israel) have already got started killing one farmer and wounding 27 as Israel suppresses the Palestinian right to non violent protest against the actions primarily in this instance of the US.[/QUOTE]

    Hey alexa, did you hear about 7 year old Palestinian girl, sent by Hamas toward Israeli borders? Wonder, why they did that?

    Israeli soldiers, of course, made sure they girl is returned, unharmed.

    Non violent my old, hairy, bony ass!
     
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    The proof is in the reality that it is the Palestinians who are killed and injured.

    You are just giving the usual spin to get the US to approve of your mass killing of Palestinians and stealing of their lands.

    In a debate after your massacre in 2014, a British General was asked the usual question ....what would Britian do if it found itself having all these rockets fired at them. He thought and he said well we would not react as the Israelis do. We would not engage in a full scale war against a largely unarmed people in a densely occupied area. He said the thing is that it is obvious that Israel does not really see the Palestinians in Gaza as a genuine danger. Yes, they throw rockets and very occasionally someone gets hurt or killed but Israel has built a new railway to the area where these bombs apparently land and Israel is trying to get her people to move into these areas. No country would do that to its people if it believes that the area really is dangerous. He concluded that he believed that Israel's destruction of Gaza and massacres of her civilians was done in order to try and present the Palestinians as dangerous to the outside - that would be the Americans in particular. He said Britain would keep and eye on the situation and try and find a solution but it certainly would not do what you are doing. Israel of course does not want any solution except all the land/

    Britain did not let our army act like you do towards the Palestinians because the people of Britain did not dehumanise NI people and would not let them. Israelis though, all but a few, have totally dehumanised the Palestinians and were singing songs about how there would be no need of schools in Gaza as you were going to kill all the Gazan children.

    So of course you need your little bits of spin to justify your cruelty and to justify your mass killing of children and to justify killing people who are trying to work their fields or fish and now you really are friends with your like the Sauds. Like certainly attracts like there.
     
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    Yeah...and you are giving the usual apologies to these so-called "Palestinians" in their effort to destroy the tiny nation of Israel who resided in those lands long before the 'Philistines' arrived. There are dozens of Arabs nations surrounding Israel...why haven't they absorbed their brethren who they supposedly love so much?
     
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    At least 15 more Palestinians have been killed and over 1,400 injured during the protests which the Israelis decided before would result in causalities.
    well they made it so.

    https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2018...inians-land-day-protests-180330100034136.html


    Israel does not allow for peaceful protests from Palestinians. She views every protest as an illegal assembly or worse and meets peaceful protest with lethal force.
     
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    Could it be that these so-called "peaceful protests" are not actually peaceful. I've seen videos of these "protests"....they are violent and deadly. Those are rocks which they toss in the faces of Israeli soldiers, not flowers!
     
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    what the hell. Talk about using a mirror and turning things backward. This has absolutely nothing to do with what I said and further clearly you are just on a spin. When does Land Day which is remembering the murder of 6 Israeli citizens of Palestinian descent who were protesting Israel stealing Palestinian land suddenly turn into the reverse. Yes, I get it that is what you always say but it needs to be turned round and the blame given to the Imperialist Israelis who have been colonising their land while keeping them prisoner and removing their children from them in the dead of night to face without lawyer or family member a military court where they suffer torture for 50 years.

    Eh no, genetics suggest the Palestinians are the nearest genetic relatives of the ancient Jews. The have genetic links with all Jewish groups, generally if not always closer genetic links than the different groups have to each other and they are exactly in the middle. At least I can be happy that karma is going to be coming to the American Christian Right as they have been serving the wrong people.
     
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    Looks like a misleading article designed to demonize Israelis for defending themselves. People who don't give a damn about Palestinians are using them as pawns against Israel and are putting woman and children in harms way in hopes of Pallywood footage. All they have to do is roll some burning tires and fire a few shots at Israeli soldiers and stand behind the women and children.

    There is still only one small strip of land in the region where it is safe to be Jewish, Muslim, Christian, atheist, female, gay, or have an opinion of your own. Its worth defending.
     
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    You are meaning the left even Christians like Chris Hedges who want to keep the Christian Right from bringing fascism to the US. Again you are reversing the mirror. Mind you Israeli settlers and Government, Sauds and the American Christian Right are all made for each other. I notice as a poster you just have an arrow load of insults. You have nothing to say on the situation and I am returning to you like with like. By your approach you tell me that you know that you do not have a valid argument for what you support. So in black and white it is Imperialist Colonisation on the part of the Israelis wanting an ethnic nationalist state being in harmony with the alt right/far right whatever you want to call in, you know white nationalism and supporting them in Poland and Hungary while ignoring the voices of their Jewish Communities concerns as they make friends with antisemites which will in any case be welcomed by Israel as she wants all Jews to be displaced from Europe and the US. So that is Israel nowadays in harmony with the alt right and the Sauds. Meanwhile the Christian Right also want all Jews put into Israel. Then they can get on with Armageddon.....and they are getting close I will give you that. A few of the Jews will of course survive by turning to their brand of Christianity which has forgotten the meaning of the word compassion and all the rest will be destroyed.

    Not my cup of tea I am afraid.
     
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    Yes occasionally they throw rocks and kill people like sneaking into settlements and stabbing entire families to death but lets ignore that.

    They're mostly unarmed except for constant rocket attacks n stuff.
     
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    Exactly.

    Why are women and children in the firing line?

    Because Palestinians put them there.
     
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    The protests at the Gaza border became very violent.
     
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    And they idolize terrorists. Its not not like they look up to scientists, doctors, or anyone who makes a positive difference. Just look at that stupid girl that slapped an Israeli soldier; her picture is everywhere like she is some sort of hero.
     
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    They were meant to be. Why else would Hamas entice people to approach border with Israel and pretend (or not pretend) to approach or cross the border? Why else would Hamas send seven years old girl toward border if they did not hope for her to be wounded, or worse?
     
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    Each dead or wounded woman or child worth their weight in gold in new donations to Palestinians. Sorry for being so cynical, but this is how it is.
     
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