Palestinian Girl Cries As Israelis Bulldoze Her Home

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    The bloody Fakestinians should go back across the River Jordan to THEIR actual ancestral country of origin.
     
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    The U.N. Partition did not give "the Jewish state"
    most of the Negev.


    What would the map look like today if the armed forced of
    Iraq, Syria, "Transjordan", Egypt, Saudi Arabia, etc.
    had not attacked with the intention of pushing the Jewish State
    into the sea when the :roflol: "peace keepers" left?

    Like blaming Bernard Goetz for being a victim of a mugging,

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1984_New_York_City_Subway_shooting



    NOW if you want to witness innocent people losing their home
    look up the Foreclosure Crisis fostered by the Obama administration.
    Lots of sobbing children there too.


    Moi
    :oldman:
    Let Truthiness Be Told



    Foreclose on :flagcanada:
     
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    I never said all Salafis are not extremists. Please don't put words in my mouth, I'm on a diet.

    I said that not all Salafis preach violent jihad. All Salafis are Islamic fundamentalists, aka extremists.

    Is your google on strike? It's very easy to find information online regarding Salafism, its origins, its various flavors, the differences between the Saudi brand and the Muslim Brotherhood's al Qutb.

    https://jamestown.org/program/understanding-the-origins-of-wahhabism-and-salafism/
    https://www.counterextremism.com/content/salafism
    https://oxfordre.com/religion/view/...9340378.001.0001/acrefore-9780199340378-e-255
    https://www.abdulhaqqbaker.com/is-quietist-salafism-an-alternative-to-isis/

    I'm not putting up any defense, because I agree with you that a Salafi society is a totalitarian nightmare. My point is not that the Saudi brand is somehow better. It's that someone who doesn't have a clue about Middle Eastern religions and cultures can't possibly understand Middle Eastern politics.
     
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    In other words, you think I'm a liar and a deceiver. Why?
     
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    its an honest question... How often does Israel get attacked? rather than illegal settlements? I dont honestly know
     
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    Do Not, "In Other Words"

    It is a losers clause that precedes the lies, propaganda, etc .




    Thus Spaketh Moi :oldman:





    BTW I did not bother to read the preceding uploads.
    Just: Anti "In Other Words" and paraphrasing uploads.
    Not to counter the other's position, but to alter the intent of the other.
    @Pisa are YOU :flagcanada: ?
     
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    English is not my native tongue. Does "simply put" sound better?

    I'm not Canadian. I'm Israeli.
     
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    No, I certainly do not think that you are a liar or deceiver and apologize if I gave you that impression.

    To be honest, I don't know if that particular video was staged or not but I simply think that there is enough evidence of Israelis destroying Palestinian homes so that videos do not have to be staged.

    Don't you agree that collective punishment is both illegal and immoral?
     
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    Many of them have.
     
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    YOU really, choose NOT to know!

    Ref.: #177 above.


    Meanwhile during the fifties when Arafat et al found victory in tossing a hand grenade in a Jewish pre schools, and the international community did not acknowledge a war on terrorism. Nor a nation's territory responsible for sponsoring terrorism.


    DEAR LORD
    COULDN'T HAVE CHOSEN AN OTHER?​
     
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    ok... No I didn't know this - but... I'm younger than 70 years and am talking about today or the past few years
     
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    Then quote, with limited editing and reply.
    Try color font to emphasize what you reply.

    In Other Words poisons the reply. I hope you get my
    "friendly" advice.
    I am by 23AndMe 99% "Jewish", Ashkenazi
    raised in the :flagus: assimilationist manner.
    Christmas Tree for Santa Claus. Easter Bunny, etc.
    Mother's family came over in 1905 with the Czars invitation to leave.
    Father's in '35 when :flagus: family located him in his bon vivant
    years in Paris and advised, "get out". His embassy papers were like
    "operation paper clip" because so many Embassy White Gentiles
    a professor's name from NYC University, Morris Cohen.


    That is Who I Am
    FYI


    I bet 23AndMe would Declare Us Second Cousins.
    ;)
     
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    This is a very simple matter. Illegally built houses are destroyed. It's not a punishment, it's upholding the law. This is what happened in Ras el Amud. By the way, the al Tahan family had at the time three houses. They're not exactly homeless now.
     
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    Try think in terms of "life time memories"

    History. Stop absorbing "HERstory"​

    Life Time Memories Ignored.
    The installation of the Shah of Iran after a coup against the democratically elected government.
    So many Latin American nations, most recently, Allende & Chile

    And then the un educated, the uninformed no comprende their antagonism
    against :flagus: events happen. Such as the JFK administration not
    comprehending the USSR reference to American occupation of Archangel.
    Hardly 50 years before and forgotten,


    Those Who Do Not Remember History
    Are Condemned To Repeat It.

    a wiser man than Moi said it
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Santayana



    POINT: Don't paraphrase. Reply with academic or first hand experience.
     
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    Now what are you blubbering about this is about what you accused me of - nice try to turn things around .. romper room games .. You were the one that accused me of lumping all Salafi's into the same group.

    Do you create so many strawmen that you can no longer remember the last one you created.


    and you would be correct - that however doesn't change the fact that the El Saud inspired extremist Salafi ideology is shared by Taliban Al Qaeda and all the other groups mentioned .

    So you have accused me of being wrong here - but not backed up that claim. you further claimed that I was wrong about everything in the Middle East

    but .. but .. but --- every time we actually get to a specific issue - rather than your broad generalization fallacy and associated platitudes - you get your backside handed to you .. without fail.

    So either make your case or get lost.


    Is your google on strike? It's very easy to find information online regarding Salafism, its origins, its various flavors, the differences between the Saudi brand and the Muslim Brotherhood's al Qutb.

    https://jamestown.org/program/understanding-the-origins-of-wahhabism-and-salafism/
    https://www.counterextremism.com/content/salafism
    https://oxfordre.com/religion/view/...9340378.001.0001/acrefore-9780199340378-e-255
    https://www.abdulhaqqbaker.com/is-quietist-salafism-an-alternative-to-isis/



    I'm not putting up any defense, because I agree with you that a Salafi society is a totalitarian nightmare. My point is not that the Saudi brand is somehow better. It's that someone who doesn't have a clue about Middle Eastern religions and cultures can't possibly understand Middle Eastern politics
     
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    I like that map. I wish the Israelis had deported the Palestinians right after their victory in the 1967 Six Day War and annexed all the land they conquered.
     
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    Watch me not care.
     
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    :flagus: speaker do not employ
    the English nor
    :flagcanada:

    "Perhaps"



    In :flagus: it is


    yes / no

    no room for "perhaps"
    as so convenient for Euros & :flagcanada: .


    Best Wishes

    and no superfluous "U"
    as in color. No "U" necessary.
     
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    Yep, there was a pile of straw men on the table just begging to thumb their collective nose at you. I had no choice but to submit, given the fire hazard with so much straw in one place. This is your problem now, deal with it.

    I put a bunch of links to serious sites, one real Salafi included. But you know better than Salafis themselves...

    My backside is still where it belongs, and you're still wrong.
     
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    You are projecting - and the one building the strawman -as demonstrated previously.

    What do your sites say that are of interest ? and what am I wrong about .. prove your worthless accusation or get lost.

    My claim is not is that Taliban - Al Qaeda and the various others mentioned are all followers of the Saudi extremist Islamist Ideology -
    what is also true is that this is Sunni Islam .. and that these groups are "Salafists" = adherents to the Saudi Salafi ideology.

    Quote one thing - from one of your 3 links that refutes this.
     
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    Quotes you demand, quotes you shall receive.

    https://jamestown.org/program/understanding-the-origins-of-wahhabism-and-salafism/

    https://www.counterextremism.com/blog/sayyid-qutb-philosophical-foundation-modern-jihadism

    https://www.abdulhaqqbaker.com/is-quietist-salafism-an-alternative-to-isis/

    The Taliban adhere to a radical interpretation of Deobandi Islam. Deobandi Islam originates in 19th century India. No connection with Wahhabism whatsoever.
     
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    Another Gem ... nothing in the first two quotes conflicts with anything I have said - never mind refuting it ?? Whats is your deal ?

    Your third quote - Affirms my claim. "ISIS (along with al-Qaida, from within which it originated) does indeed take much of its theology from Salafism."

    After completely failing to do anything other than affirm my claim :deadhorse::deadhorse::deadhorse:

    You then follow with another Gem... "The Taliban adhere to a radical interpretation of Deobandi Islam. Deobandi Islam originates in 19th century India. No connection with Wahhabism whatsoever"

    First off ..we are talking about an Extremist Sunni Islamist Ideology - which happens to be Salafism -

    The brand of Salafism we are discussing is an " Extremist Sunni Islamist Ideology" inspired by Saudi Arabia.

    The Taliban brand of "Extremist Sunni Islamist Ideology" is slightly different ... but to claim "No Connection with Salafism/Wahhabism what so ever" Is preposterous nonsense on steroids.... shows little comprehension of the subject matter
     
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    Yeah, but it's not always the case that the demolished houses are homes of terrorists and/or their family.
     
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    Relocation to the west bank? Amongst other Palestinians?

    I bet Israel gives them a home for the trouble!

    That girl crying looks European!
     
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    The above is the definition of "never miss an opportunity to miss the point". And you're putting words in my mouth again. Oh well, everybody needs a hobby...
     

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