Palestinians increase mortar fire on Israel as Ramadan continues.

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  1. axialturban

    axialturban Well-Known Member

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    Well you have Iran, Hamas and a few others openly calling for genocide through the destruction of Israel and the best you can do is link together a century of Israeli reprisals interspaced with a few criminal acts and normal population growth, all bundled together as some argument for Zionist ethnic cleansing!!! Thats hilariously one sided its really lopsided.

    The only reason the Palestinians have the west bank is because Israel let them have it back after they lost it, and Israel let them manage themselves. The Palestinians failed and now the world is catching up with them so they feel they are now forced to begrudingly try the peaceful diplomatic route since they finally realize the opportunity they've wasted for so long is leading to them actually being pushed out of their enclaves which they've basically only squatted in for protest value. I'm sure most of them just want to live peacefully but the Palestinian authorities are to blame for the current crisis because they've been given repeated opportunities by Israel to have their own land within Israel.... now that option might be running out but they've only got themselves to blame.
     
  2. moon

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    The West Bank is under Zionist control. Bethlehem is a prison camp.

    http://stopthewall.org/photos/912.shtml

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    Who told you that the Zionists don't occupy the West Bank ?
     
  3. moon

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    No, you don't. That's the rhetoric of the propaganda victim.


    Again, the Palestinian Authority runs parts of the West Bank in name only and according to Zionist dictat. The entire West Bank is Occupied Territory- illegally occupied under international law. Your overview of Palestine seems like it comes from a Fox News trainee's notebook.
     
  4. axialturban

    axialturban Well-Known Member

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    Yea we do. Their words and actions are proof of that.

    I think you have a one way intepretation of international law and its relevance to world affairs. You seem an ardent support of its letter in regard to things you support, but ignore it the rest of the time with some of the stuff you post here.

    Lets get it straight shall we, the West Bank belonged to Jordan... until Jordan was involved in an Arab coalition which was about to attack Israel in 1967, whence Israel took the West Bank in self defence amongst other areas. Israel held the West Bank during the next war another Arab coalition launched against Israel in 1973. Israel gave back lots of land it won during those wars for the promise of peace but that peace never really came did it.

    If your neighbors attack you and you defeat them and take some of their land, I dont think you should be under any obligation to give it back. Thats the risk you take if you attack another country and they lost. Stop being sore looooosers and get on living life.
     
  5. moon

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    Again, and in true Zionist fashion, you choose to ignore the laws by which the rest of the world live. There is no such thing anymore as annexing occupied territory. It is illegal. That law forms a cornerstone of UN membership and all are agreed. Your pariah State is an outlaw State .
     
  6. Slyhunter

    Slyhunter New Member Past Donor

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    The laws intent was to prevent land acquisition through war of aggression not defensive action. Israel is under no obligation to obey such a stupid law.

    There must be a price to pay for starting a war and then loosing that war.
     
  7. moon

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    Well, there isn't, in terms of territorial loss or gain. That all went out of window with the creation of the United Nations and the consolidation of previous agreements and treaties. None of the territory illegally occupied by the Zionists is legally theirs unless the Palestinians, as a nation, gift it to them. Don't hold your breath.

    Incidentally ' defensive ' strategies cannot form wars of aggression of themselves- as the Zionists have plied for decades.
     
  8. DutchClogCyborg

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    Ramadan is usually the most violent month for a reason. Tough any month near the Palestinians turns out to be violent.
     
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    Slyhunter New Member Past Donor

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    Israel can demand the land as terms of peace. They're still at war so Israel doesn't have to give it back.
     
  10. The Judge

    The Judge New Member Past Donor

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    Then, maybe Israelis should stop murdering hated Semites so that they are no longer at war? Just a thought.
     
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    you got it backwards it is Hamas that is firing rockets into Israel and who refuse peaceful solutions.
     
  12. The Judge

    The Judge New Member Past Donor

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    Why should the hated Semites not fire rockets since Israel wants to be at war with them, attacks them and blockades their waters? Basically, want you want is for Israel to slaughter hated Semites unconditionally, as often expressed in your writings.
     
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    War ? How can you be at war with your own Palestinian prisoners ?

    You must be confused with the Zionists' theft of the Golan Heights.
     
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    No surprise, they are capable of anything. This one tried to blow up the hospital that saved her.


    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M9qy4y-Y5zs&feature=player_embedded"]Pregnant Palestinian woman interrogated by the IDF - YouTube[/ame]
     
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    correction they fired rockets first then Israel blockaded their waters to try to prevent them from getting any more rockets. You got cause and effect all backwards.
     
  16. The Judge

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    Well, given that you advocate the genocide of the hated Semites, how are we supposed to believe that such unconditional racism is the truth? You tend to blame and condemn the hated Semites for all the evils in the world, but have you ever attempted to provide facts to prove that such Nazi ideology is logical?
     
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    Link where he advocates.

    Israel and other nations have the fullest right to defend itself from Jihad.
     
  18. The Judge

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    Why are you heavily defensive of those who advocate the genocide of hated Semites in the name of Israel?

    Is it really illegal for Zionists to not hate Semites, as expressed by so many of its followers?
     
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    It's legal for the Jews to defend itself from it's enemies using any means necessary.
     
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    How come it was okay for the french to offer resistance against an occupation (including other vichy frenchmen), but it isn't okay for the palestinians to offer resistance to occupation?

    How come everything Israel does is "illegal" but there is no enforcement of the "laws" that make their actions illegal. If a law cannot be enforced, its not a law its wishful thinking.


    I doubt its Hamas that is firing the rockets. I think its more likely some other gang of heavily armed thugs like IJ or PLFP. Ineffective military action - the hallmark of Palestinian resistance for 60+ years.

    You'd think that the Palestinian people would figure out a more effective method of attaining their ultimate goal - a nation called Palestine. But somehow addressing the issues of the past are more important than the embracing the potential of the future. If it hadn't been for Arafat and now Hamas, they could have had it, but palestinian leadership has been all about hatred and total rejection of Israel. Wet dreams of impotent talking sphincters who are willing to spend the blood of their people in pursuit of the unattainable.
     
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    This view means that you believe that American Jews have the right to unconditionally murder Likudniks using any means of their choosing.
     
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    Ramadan has always been the most violent month Jihad-wise.
     
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    I agree. It's probably a bunch of Amway salesmen, or maybe the Jehovah's Witnesses.
     
  25. Jonsa

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    do you realize how many "resistance" organizations there are in gaza and the WB? How many make up the PLO?

    Hamas has nominal political and limited military control of Gaza. The idea that they can control all the whackos and competing ideological groups is absurd. Of course every so often they do try and knock a few off.
     

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