Parent has poem restricted in Florida school

That's actually exactly what you had said.



After your declaration you ... into your rational. But your declaration is clear and concise. I don't give a **** about what you type after the ..., because again all that is after is just your rational. But your declaration is seperate, clear and concise. Own what you said.

 

Are you saying Penthouse forum letters should be made available to young children in their school libraries?

 

It appears you are misrepresenting the position of protecting children. Schools are a "soft target" for killers. On my way to the office, I pass 2 private schools that have armed security escorting students from the car to the building. They didn't just throw guns over the fence; they hired armed, trained, security guards to protect the lives of the children.

Do you disagree with this?

 

I ask why it is necessary. Other countries don't depend on armed guards to protect the students, why do we?

Also, you passed 2 PRIVATE schools. How much do they cost? Would the average person be able to afford it? How about someone who is in a lower economic status?

 

I'm saying that if the choice is between Penthouse forum letters or guns I wouldn't choose the guns.

Why would you?

 

Other countries have laws against private gun ownership and still have more murder. Currently, parents living in poor, high crime neighborhoods must send their kids to the school assigned to them by their address. My high school was so dangerous, the school paper had an obituary section! Once they put 2 armed police officers on campus, gang violence came to a halt.

Luckily, charter schools are popping up and School Choice can give parents a better option. Schools competing for the business can offer security to attract parents.

Another factor few are willing to discuss is the record consumption of antidepressants. These products list "suicidal thoughts or actions" as side effects. Show me someone that doesn't value their life and I will show you someone that values no life.

 

I am not playing that game. nice try though. google it if you really want to know.

 

A gun is not a book try again so it's a false choice.

Are you saying Penthouse forum letters should be made available to young children in their school libraries?

 

Gun culture.

 

No, I'm said if the choice was between a gun and a penthouse forum letter book, I'll choose the book

I don't care if you think it's a false choice. That was my statement.

To try and construe it as my opinion that Penthouse letter books should be available to school age children is a lie.

 

I know, the problem is that those complaining loudest about it don't.

 

Really? Name an industrialized country that has laws against private gun ownership and yet still has more murder than the United States.

 

First you would have to show a connection between antidepressants and mass shootings.

 

Ah, it appears that you know the answer, but intentionally omitted data based on the presence of factories, modern roads and bridges. The term "developed countries" is also used to mislead others. Guns do not know which country they are in. Killers, gangsters, and cartel members know that victims are unarmed in territories with strict gun laws.

 

I didn't omit anything.

You want to compare apples to oranges.

 

The term "mass shootings" is used to mislead others by intentionally omitting data where 3 or fewer people are murdered by a single killer. The vast majority of murder is committed one or two at a time. This occurs in cities with strict gun control, so omitting this data is crucial when trying to make the argument that gun control makes innocent people safer. It does make it safe for killers.

Studies on suicidality and aggression while on antidepressants are not easy to find, but 100% of these products list "suicidal thoughts or actions" as known side effects.

 

States With Strong Laws See Less Gun Violence
https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/articles/2022-01-21/report-states-with-strong-laws-see-less-gun-violence#:~:text=States with stronger firearms legislation,strength of their gun laws.

The study focused on 50 policies, encompassing a wide range of gun violence-related issues to determine the rankings. Of these policies there are five which Everytown considers to be “foundational.” These laws are: requiring background checks and permits to purchase handguns; requiring a permit to carry concealed guns in public; so-called extreme risk laws, which allow for court orders removing guns from those who pose a serious threat to themselves or others; requiring secure storage of firearms; and rejecting stand your ground laws.

 

You omitted countries with laws against private gun ownership and higher murder rates using the "industrialized" fallacy. The gun, the act of committing murder, and the result has zero to do with the existence of modern factories, roads, and bridges.

 

How many 3rd graders are not allowed to look at this book of depressing poetry?

 

Omitting data is the only way to make the case that stronger gun laws make innocent people safer. Killers are much safer in the most dangerous cities. We can all agree that removing guns from those who pose a threat to themselves and others is a good idea. Removing rights from peaceful people only helps criminals. We can move the lens around to see cities with "constitutional carry" laws and low murder rates.

If we zoom out and see the big picture, the vast majority of murder is committed by government and the vast majority of victims are unarmed.

 

Not only do stricter gun laws make people safer, so does the absence of guns.

 

You may be right. If 100% of the weapons magically disappeared, the absence of weapons could make people safer. That would mean that there would be no military and no wars. I would love to live in that fantasy.

Unfortunately, no one can figure out how to disarm murderers. Gun laws only serve them easy victims. Second amendment rights make the elderly and frail equal to the 250 pound killer. Did you hear that recording of the elderly lady calling 911 because someone was kicking in her door? He got in long before the police could arrive. When the police arrived, the home invader was dead. Gun bans would create a different crime scene.
While you and I are enjoying this discussion from the safety of our screens, law enforcement see crime scenes on a regular bases and are overwhelmingly in support of armed citizens.

 

Don't forget the absence of criminals and those hoping to become a criminal.

 

and if we are going to wish for things to magically disappear, why not wish for the desire to harm others to vanish?

 

What does a gun have to do with books for loan in a library. Is there some library that is lending out guns to students? As I said a false choice.


Do agree Penthouse magazines can be banned in school library's? I assume you do. Why should they be banned in your opinion?