Parents Lose Custody of Daughter for Opposing Transgender Medical Treatments

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  1. Steve N

    Steve N Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So a minor who wants to be a girl doesn't have the blessing of his parents to move forward with the transition and becomes suicidal - that one sentence has two signs of someone being mentally unbalanced. Next up is his lawyer who argued the parents weren't open to the idea of their son becoming a girl which sounds perfectly normal to me, does anyone really want their kid to be surgically turned into something they're not and never will be?

    Bottom line, if a kid wants to do something crazy and the parent aren't open to it then take the kids away. Thanks liberals.

     
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    Oh those horrible parents, refusing to pay for a phalloplasty.
     
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    Undergoing transgendered reassignment surgery is not crazy. Refusing to allow a 17 year old to make decisions about their own body, when they want to engage in a medically sound and widely accepted practice, is crazy. And it is extremely improper for a set of parents to inflict such an intentional emotional distress on their child.

    Removal seems proper.
     
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    If would be interesting to see how many people regret their gender reassignment surgery. Anecdotal evidence suggests it's a high percentage, but in Britain the scientist who propose a study on this was quickly silenced by the left. God forbid we learn the truth.

    Taking this decision away from parents is unconscionable.
     
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    Not so fast. I would have a hard time allowing this for my son or daughter.
     
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    Here is the FOX article without the bretibart spin: http://fox61.com/2018/02/13/parents-want-custody-to-stop-transgender-teen-having-hormone-treatment/

    This child is 17 years old. I think a 17 year old is old enough to choose to live with support grandparents over abusive parents.

    The court refused to give the parents custody to deny treatment. The teen is already in custody of the state/grandparents.
     
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    Of course it's crazy.

    The reality is that you are either male or female, or already have a rare genetic mutation.

    If your mind tells you that your male body is actually female, that's the definition of mental illness.
     
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    17 just seems so young to make a decision of this magnitude :(
     
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    Why was the boy even in the care of a 'medical team' in the first place? Was he ill? Further, he stupidly tried to force the hand of the parents via emotional blackmail. And no, 'desperation' based purely on feelings does not validate emotional blackmail. He wasn't starving to death, dying of cancer, locked in a basement, or in danger of being abused/beaten up.

    This kid is damned lucky he has parents responsible enough to consider his long term welfare. Though the chances are very high (it runs about 90% currently) that this boy will one day condemn his parents from not trying harder to stop him transitioning.
     
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    per the article, and of no surpirse, the girl is depressed. Well color me shocked. She has serious mental issues and an addadicktome surgery isn't going to clear her head.
     
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    it's a girl

    she has a vagina
     
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    Until they turn it inside out and turn it into a penis.

    Although it takes a lot of plastic surgery...
     
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    Doubt it, he’ll off himself in some shady motel in a few years. Statistics and what not.
     
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    What about the kid who wants to have synthetic devil horns surgically attached to his skull? You okay with that? or do you think perhaps it might tell later in his/her life?

    Supporting this stuff is outrageously irresponsible. Not to mention disturbingly selective. Why is one okay, and the other not? Because sex plus kids. Unless you have considerable experience in, or facility for, looking at the deeper 'clinical' picture, you don't have the first clue of what you are actually supporting.
     
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    Well there's that very high likelihood, too. Which is exactly what the parents are wanting to prevent.
     
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    Very high. In those that survive the crippling depression and suicide attempts.

    These are mentally ill individuals, left untreated. Worse, their symptoms and expression are encouraged. That's like taking a delusional schizoid and applying all of their triggers at once .. then abandoning them to it.
     
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    Sheesh! My mom wouldn't even let me get my ear pierced! She said "If you were meant to have a hole there, you would have been born with one!" I imagine these parents said the same thing!
     
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    'abusive' parents? you mean parents who are concerned for his long term welfare and happiness?

    you people should not be allowed out unsupervised.
     
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    There is nothing medically sound about genital mutilation of one's self. There is nothing sound about allowing a 17 year to make such a decision about themselves without parental consent.

    And how is a 17 year old paying for this?
     
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    The girl is trying to look like a boy. The news story is still referring to her as her true gender.
     
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    Did you even read the article?

    "The teen’s parents want court authority to stop their child from getting the treatment and therapy that was recommended by his medical team in what it characterizes as a possible life-or-death situation.

    Medical experts testified that the father’s ongoing refusal to call the child by his chosen name and the parents’ rejection of the teen’s gender identity have triggered suicidal feelings.

    In November 2016, the teen had contacted a crisis chat service to say he felt unsafe in his parents’ home, according to the complaint. The teen reported that his father told him to kill himself, because he was “going to hell anyway,” according to a transcript of the closing arguments"

    Sounds pretty abusive to me. 17 year olds are old enough to make decisions like this for themselves. You don't get to say they can't just because you don't like it.
     
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    I thought it was a boy? Confused!
     
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    My apologies. I thought it was a boy who wanted to be a girl. Either way!
     
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    okay, makes sense now. thanks.

    consider all my 'he' as 'she', in that case.
     
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    You sound 17 yourself, given my bold.

    Meantime, this poor girl is NOT being treated - for her primary condition, which is a delusional mental illness. She is having her symptoms (gender dysphoria) exacerbated by litigiphobic and politically corrupted medical 'professionals'. Actual treatment would see her adjust to her biological reality, which would bring with it relief from depression.

    You people are literally killing these children. All abuse is on your part.
     

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