Paris neighborhoods turn into drug-infested ghettos

Several neighborhoods in Paris have turned into drug-infested ghettos.

This was entirely predictable. The same phenomena happened in the US in many large cities in the 1970s and 80s.

Of course the French and Europeans have had no historical experience with this, so this phenomena is entirely new.

Large numbers of African migrants have settled in France, mainly in specific neighborhoods in and around Paris. The poverty and unemployment rates in these neighborhoods are often high, and drug problems are very prevalent, along with many of the social problems that come along with that.

Children Fall Victim to Vicious French Drug War

Two weeks ago a 14-year-old boy called Rayanne was shot dead by a young man on a scooter outside the Les Marronniers housing estate where he lived in northern Marseille. Two other boys - one of 14, the other aged eight - were wounded in the attack.

Over the following weekend three more people were murdered in Marseille, also in turf wars over drugs. One of them was burned alive in the boot of a car. So far this year there have been 15 gangland killings in France's second city, 12 since the start of the summer.
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Many of those involved in selling drugs are young teenagers, and predictably there are drug gang killings.

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errmmm.....haven't we done this one already...?

 

The only difference is that those ghettos have gone from booze-infested to drug-infested. When Paris gets as bad as San Fransico let us know.

 

Just one of the many benefits of unchecked, unvetted, immigration. Many countries expel their dregs, drug addicts, and criminals, knowing you will take their problems even though it will lead to your demise. This is going on around the world.

 

probablement une amélioration, if you ask me

 

It's one of the blessings of an open door immigration policy. Like the USA, you don't know the difference between immigration and invasion. They leave their third world **** hole and bring their criminality, disease, gangs, racial and religious hatred, to your country. Your country and citizens suffer greatly Perhaps they should be sent back to their home country to fix the so called problem, unless you're happy with what they brought you.

 

That link didn't work for me.

Funny, France's drug problem got better once they dumped our Drug War. Remember the French Connection? That stopped when France put emphasis on treatment. There's more to it, but France stopped being a major source for drugs.

A lot of things are cyclical. I wonder if this is cyclical in France.

 

These news links often expire after a short period of time. That's one of the reasons I sometimes prefer to copy and paste portions of the news article, for when the link stops working, but then sometimes the moderators in these forums get mad at me and sometimes even delete my threads. So it can be a no-win situation.

 

100% true.

 

Marseilles is nowhere near Paris.
It has always been a "difficult" place related to migration and trade due to its location.
Everyone knows about its problems.
No big deal

 

Neither France or the EU hascan open door policy.
They do have people traffickers. Like everyone else.

 

Don't expose your ignorance. Migration is checked in Europe by Frontex and internal cross referencing an internal information system.
Frontex uses ships, drones and on the ground surveillance.

 

No experiences? What happened to all the RW Viking Saga's from 20 yrs ago about Europe's "no-go" zones?

Paris has always had some areas which you should avoid. You know...like pretty much all larger US cities do.

 

Legalizing drugs will get rid of this violence though. Just ask any liberal.

 

Or Libertarian.

15 killings in a city of nearly a million residents seems peaceful. During similar period in Miami (cocaine wars) we had 573 murders in the 1st 7 months of the year in 1980. In 2020 Miami had nearly 300 murders.

 

Can't ya see what wonders it's done for California?

 

Cocaine however is still illegal so your example doesn’t have a true metric for violence and drugs

 

It is illegal in Marseilles too, so yes, it compares very well.

 

No. To see the effect of drugs and crime you have to look at areas that are either lower in drugs use, or areas where drugs are legal. Comparing two areas and saying both have drug problems and crime problems doesn’t mean anything.

 

The whole topic is about France and people getting killed over drugs. Drugs are NOT legal in France, and that includes pot. It was the same situation in Miami, and still is, except that in Miami the murder count today is 20 times higher than Marseilles.

 

Yes, but you as a libertarian believes all drugs should be legal and once legalized crime will go down right? So show me an area where crime went down once drugs were legalized.

or I could show you two areas of similar size. One that has a drug problem and one that does not and compare crime rates per city

 

Where did I say that?

There is only one nation that I know of where drugs have been decriminalized (not legalized), and that is Portugal. It seems common sense that if you stop arresting people for drugs, then drug sentencing will go down, and that will reflect in reduced crime statistics. In US it would reduce sentencing and prison population significantly, since large portion of our crimes are drug related.

Portugal:

• Drug-related deaths have remained below the EU average since 2001
• The proportion of prisoners sentenced for drugs has fallen from 40% to 15%
• Rates of drug use have remained consistently below the EU average

In the first five years after the reforms, drug deaths dropped dramatically. They rose slightly in the following years, before returning to 2005 levels in 2011, with only 10 drug overdose deaths recorded in that year. Since 2011, drug deaths have risen again but remain below 2001 levels (when there were 76 recorded deaths).
https://transformdrugs.org/blog/drug-decriminalisation-in-portugal-setting-the-record-straight


However, I have mentioned before that in Holland, where they decriminalized cannabis, the effect was increase in crime, because European crime families flocked to the scene and brought all kinds of crime with them. Now everything that is not bolted down, will disappear.

 

That article did not say anything about crime stats. It only spoke drug related crime stats. Of course those will go down.

mid you look at my link their overall crime actually went up after decriminalization

https://www.macrotrends.net/countries/PRT/portugal/crime-rate-statistics

 

33% Decline in one year..........Overall crime has declined since 2001 which is when they decriminalized. Your own source proves it.

• Portugal crime rate & statistics for 2016 was 0.64, a 33.73% decline from 2015.

 

Portugal is much poorer though (with a very high unemployment rate among teens and young adults) so does not have a big immigrant population.
So we are talking about a population of pretty much all Portuguese people. That is the population group that these policies you support supposedly worked on.

I know, I know, people like you will refuse to be able to comprehend how that is even relevant.

However, on the other side of the coin, full legalization might prevent so many Africans from going to France just to deal illegal drugs. Seems to be a popular niche in the economy they occupy.