Parkland Students Astroturfing

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  1. Battle3

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    http://thefederalist.com/2018/03/01/take-two-weeks-truth-emerge-parkland-students-astroturfing/

    Why Did It Take Two Weeks To Discover Parkland Students’ Astroturfing?

    “Can you believe these kids?” It’s been a recurring theme of the coverage of the Parkland school shooting: the remarkable effectiveness of the high school students who created a gun control organization in the wake of the massacre. In seemingly no time, the magical kids had organized events ranging from a national march to a mass school walkout, and they’d brought in a million dollars in donations from Oprah Winfrey and George Clooney.

    The Miami Herald
    credited their success to the school’s stellar debate program. The Wall Street Journal said it was because they were born online, and organizing was instinctive.

    On February 28, BuzzFeed came out with the actual story: Rep. Debbie Wassermann Schultz aiding in the lobbying in Tallahassee, a teacher’s union organizing the buses that got the kids there, Michael Bloomberg’s groups and the Women’s March working on the upcoming March For Our Lives, MoveOn.org doing social media promotion and (potentially) march logistics, and training for student activists provided by federally funded Planned Parenthood.

    The president of the American Federation of Teachers
    told BuzzFeed they’re also behind the national school walkout, which journalists had previously assured the public was the sole work of a teenager. (I’d thought teachers were supposed to get kids into school, but maybe that’s just me.)

    In other words, the response was professionalized. That’s not surprising, because this is what organization that gets results actually looks like. It’s not a bunch of magical kids in somebody’s living room. Nor is it surprising that the professionalization happened right off the bat. Broward County’s teacher’s union is militant, and Rep. Ted Lieu stated on Twitter that his family knows Parkland student activist David Hogg’s family, so there were plenty of opportunities for grown-ups with resources and skills to connect the kids.

    As usual, the gun banner groups used the victims as tools to elicit sympathy from the population in hopes emotion would override common sense and rational thought and allow the banners to advance their gun ban agenda.

    This time it was a little different because the victims were teenagers in a liberal enclave whose parents have a lot of connections with politicians.

    And the victims were white. That seems to be important to the gun banners. We rarely hear about the death toll in liberal cities like Chicago and DC where its not uncommon for a dozen kids to get murdered over a weekend.

    Now that you know you were manipulated, do you feel used? If you supported gun control because you saw kids as spokes people, knowing they were simply mouthpieces of the political elite, do you still support the pointless gun control proposals?
     
  2. Andrew Jackson

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    :roflol:

    So what?

    Just more RW Fever Swamp BS taking shots at the victims.

    Textbook M.O. of delusional gun huggers.

    That said, Nobody cares.

    Astroturfing? :roflol:

    Btw--FieldTurf is far superior.

    Carry on. :salute:
     
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  3. Battle3

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    So you feel you had to reply, but had nothing to say which would rebute the facts, so you post meaningless gook. Whats really interesting is that you were clearly so upset at learning the Parkland kids were just a fake front that you wasted your time to post, I assume as some form of emotional outlet due to frustration.
     
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    Too much poise, too much polish. Easy to tell it was all put on. Coached and coaxed.
     
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    Don’t look now but your conspiracy theories are showing
     
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    I suppose believing these wacky conspiracy theories is more soothing to the soul than realising that in supporting guns guns guns philosophy the gun bunnies have enabled the mass shooters of America
     
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    Shrugs, the guy that wrote that OP article is no dumby but no one will care.

    The Sheriffs denial and this long drawn out investigation showing how crappy that county is run will have sucked the life out of any serious use of guns as a pivotal platform pillar in Nov.

    People want money and prosperity right now. Not drama. Oh and citizenships. GOP has all of that so better hope for drama near Nov. Lefties.
     
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    Good group of kids, good message. I'm glad this is being well-received today. Hopefully this will produce both safer schools and less military-style rifles on the streets.
     
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    Totally.

    All the RW Gun Huggers want to do is to insult the survivors and excuse gun violence.

    "astroturfing"? :roflol:
     
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    That's all you have? I give you facts, and all you can respond with is the usual irrelevant shallowness? You know, if you don't have anything rational or factual, then you don't have to post.
     
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    The only frustration apparent is that, for some reason, right-wingers feel like their paranoid and delusional garbage "information" sites are legitimate source of anything but right-wing pablum based solely on the "feels" of a few "special" individuals who seem to bear a grudge against anyone who isn't white, male, and/or Christian.
     
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    Are you saying Buzzfeed is lying?
     
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    Those who pretend that humans do not conspire are fooling only themselves.

    At first I believed the official story, and it took me 2 weeks to discover just a few holes in the story. Today it does appear that the story doesn't quite add up, and that it was a staged event somehow.

    Announcing a training exercise on St. Valentine's Day is the deal breaker IMO.

    The OP here makes many good points regarding how professional the efforts look. I remember that with the Sandy Hook kids, somebody went to the trouble to have them at several major sporting events, including I'm pretty sure the Daytona 500 that year.

    These staged events have so many characteristics in common.
     
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    Lol... Oh you guys .... don't look now , anti constitution lefties strike again. I guess they can't read ....https://www.lectlaw.com/files/gun01.htm
     
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    More conspiracy theory thinking
     
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    On February 28, BuzzFeed came out with the actual story: Rep. Debbie Wassermann Schultz aiding in the lobbying in Tallahassee, a teacher’s union organizing the buses that got the kids there, Michael Bloomberg’s groups and the Women’s March working on the upcoming March For Our Lives, MoveOn.org doing social media promotion and (potentially) march logistics, and training for student activists provided by federally funded Planned Parenthood.

    The president of the American Federation of Teachers
    told BuzzFeed they’re also behind the national school walkout, which journalists had previously assured the public was the sole work of a teenager. (I’d thought teachers were supposed to get kids into school, but maybe that’s just me.)

    In other words, the response was professionalized. That’s not surprising, because this is what organization that gets results actually looks like. It’s not a bunch of magical kids in somebody’s living room. Nor is it surprising that the professionalization happened right off the bat. Broward County’s teacher’s union is militant, and Rep. Ted Lieu stated on Twitter that his family knows Parkland student activist David Hogg’s family, so there were plenty of opportunities for grown-ups with resources and skills to connect the kids.


    Helps when you read.
     
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    It's been proved many times that "conspiracy theories" are often correct. Northwoods is but one example. It turns out that humans DO conspire, especially when they work for the government.
     
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    Just more contrived crude political show biz.
     
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    The left has already lost this battle and a slickly financed and managed gun control message funneled through three hand picked kids
    has failed to move the debate, thanks largely to inconvenient news reports about Steve Israel and his Keystone Kops sheriffs department.
    that stood down while children were murdered right next to them. https://www.investors.com/politics/...sade-exploited-grieving-students-and-parents/
     
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    An oxymoron. Not much "thinking" goes into their lunacy.
     
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    Back in my HS days I was always amused when adults were shocked after hearing a well reasoned and articulate policy position from a student (my favorite memory was a teacher that supported Bush the Lesser's reelection getting crushed by the entire class). As an adult myself now seeing my fellows trying to dismiss an opposing political movement becuase it couldn't possibly be set up by kids, my amusement has turned to disgust. People younger than these students ran countries and led armies (and did so competently) until a few centuries ago. The cynic in me suspects most people know this and are just being dismissive to avoid addressing the issue. The idealist in me gives people the benefit of the doubt and assumes they're actually this stupid which is even worse.
     
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    BS.

    By always focusing on the method, the anti-gun crowd allows the cause to go unchecked, and ignored.
     
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    I wonder, do Oprah and Clooney have armed bodyguards? Why don't they lead the way and refuse to allow their guards to carry weapons? That seems to be a problem with Left-wing movements like guns and global warming; do what we tell you and ignore what we do.
     
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    OMG, activists who aren't Koch bros puppets (like Trump) are doing something about something?

    Alt left violence and hatred knows no bounds.
     
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    Some are surprised that the kids were motivated and helped by others outside the school?
     

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