Parsons Green: London Underground blast is terror incident

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  1. The Scotsman

    The Scotsman Well-Known Member

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    My thoughs and best wishes for a speedy recovery to the injured. Thankfully nobody killed.

    And that f**kwit Khan has come up with a really original quote as usual.....
    ....nothing to see move on...all's well in the world....situation normal
     
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    Pathetic attempt at terrorism. Morons
     
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    cerberus Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    "Theresa May rebukes Donald Trump for suggesting those responsible for Parsons Green tube bomb 'in the sights of Scotland Yard'"

    All very well to rebuke him but the fact is he's probably spot on the money, which is really why she's got her knickers in a twist about it. I'll wager any amount anyone cares to name that the next thing we'll hear is 'the suspect was on the security service's radar'. As for Khan's populist 'They'll never beat us' braggadocio? These jihadists know no fear, either of being caught, or of the consequences if they are caught - they laugh at it, then count the days until the end of their jail time so they can get out and try again. And as if that isn't preposterous enough, they don't wear recognisable uniforms and actually want to die for their cause. There is no way we can beat an enemy like that under our present legislation.

    As for May's idiotic remark about DJT's tweet 'not being helpful'? [​IMG] It wasn't meant to be bloody helpful, it was meant as a warning. I despair, I really do!

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/201...ys-parsons-green-attacker-demented-terrorist/
     
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    Oh the French won't pussyfoot around, they'll shoot to kill and ask questions later - or not at all, and simply disappear the shooter. After all who would know and who would care? [​IMG] The stupid Brits would put the shooter through due process. :roll: :wall: Those the gods wish to destroy, and all that?
     
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    Right on, except for the Trump tweet. When Trump was making excuses for not condemning the nazis and white supremacists in
    Charlottesville, he spouted several times that he didn't have all the facts, and that is why he didn't comment. He certainly
    did not have any facts about the train bomb in London, and yet he was flapping away. Is there inconsistency here, or is the tooth fairy
    alive and well in Trump land?
     
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    cerberus Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You obviously missed the salient point of his Tweet, which was our security forces know who the potential jihadists are, but leave them alone and only act after they've carried out an atrocity. I mean WTF??
     
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    WTF is true and I missed that. They can't arrest them if they haven't acted, right? I think that they should arrest them anyway, but
    that is no good because they can't be held without due process. Mess. Was Trump aware that the Brits knew who they were and that
    they were planning an attack?
     
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    So you think you should throw out the rule of law?
     
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    Trump was behaving like the fat, interfering, smelly fart he is.
     
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    I don't know about throwing anything out, just maybe a little bending.
     
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    Well that's just "part and parcel of life in a big city."

    Nothing to see here, move along.
     
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    An extremist counter reaction in response to fear of extremists is exactly the wrong approach to take. It becomes the French Revolution all over again with heads flying everywhere while promoting more extremism.
     
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    He obviously didn't know any more than I or anyone else did, but he suspected the probability owing to the simple fact we've heard it so many times before - that the perpetrator was known to the security forces prior to the attack on unsuspecting civilians. The only alternative in that scenario would be the temporary apprehension (and the perp couldn't be held in custody forever? In fact, only for a few days, after which he'd be free to go ahead after release from custody, which, when you think about it begs the question Why hold him in custody in the first place??) would be to not take any action, and by so doing risk, or even allow a planned atrocity to be carried out whether it be before the arrest or afterwards. If I knew one of my family were destined to be a victim of that atrocity, I'd prefer the arrest was made before rather than afterwards; wouldn't you? Like you so rightly say - 'Mess'.
     
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    Thanks for your valuable input.
     
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    Both ways may promote more extremism, because they become empowered when no price is paid.
     
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    Yes, I would prefer the arrest before the act, if they had enough info to arrest them.
     
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    Well my guess is that if they were 'on the police radar' or 'known to the security services' then they must have been under surveillance, and that the surveillance had proved their activities were suspicious? That's the way I look at it anyway.
     
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    That's right - they have no fear whatsoever of retribution.
     
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    They would have to release them and they would disappear into the woodwork, only to surface elsewhere.
     
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    If you can take fart's imput , who are you to complain, flower? :)
     
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    Extremist reactions promote extremist responses. It becomes a death spiral between polar opposites.
     
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    Well, duh.
     
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    Having an extremist response when someone's trying to kill you is pretty appropriate.

    I'm going to guess that these 20k+ jihadi's living in the UK aren't citizens. Why are they allowed to stay?
     

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