Part 38 of Post Your Tough Questions Regarding Christianity

Hey Mitt!

I am fascinated by Christian Prophecies and I actually began to attend the local LDS ward back in 2019 after the gifted Mark Taylor
www.sordrescue.com/
.... mentioned that Mr. Mitt Romney probably actually won the 2012 election but......
it was probably stolen from him through voter fraud....... that reminded me of
The White Horse President Prophecy and I started to do some research that included
attending the local ward of the LDS as often as I am free to get there?!


http://www.politicalforum.com/index...tion-and-dollar.570833/page-4#post-1072459964



The White Horse President prophecy and saving the USA constitution and dollar.

 

Here we have an excellent example of how the religious fool themselves. The vast majority do not believe in your god, the obvious answer is that you god does not exist or care. But instead we see how you offer both an excuse and make a threat. If you mock my god he will get you in the afterlife, its a threat you make with no idea of whether it can possibly be true.Now that the church has so little power it is the only threat you can make. Magic!

 

Any human being with some comprehension of The Law of Probability.....
a little bit of understanding of String Theory ......
a little bit of understanding of The Cyclic Model of the Universe / Multiverse.....
a basic grade five understanding of mathematics.......
COULD NOT TERM THEMSELVES AN ATHEIST...... Agnostic would be the strongest term that they could possibly use to describe their relative disbelief.......


www.CarbonBias.blogspot.ca/


and.......


http://www.politicalforum.com/index.php?threads/ruby.444300/



http://www.politicalforum.com/index...d-to-punish-us.431430/page-19#post-1065779413

 

Watch Roger Penrose and the liar for jesus Craig discuss and come back to me on the rubbish you quote.

 

No........ I don't have that much time to waste on stupidity..........

If you want to impress me..... come up with an intelligent response to my quite serious nomination for some variation of Nobel Peace Prize for Canadian near death experiencer Dr. Bruce MacDonald.....

I have no time for somebody who doesn't even comprehend the Law of Probability......
as it obviously applies to String Theory as worded for the average Grade five student.....

Your nomination for Nobel Prize in Literature?

You heard me correct......
grade five student.....

www.CarbonBias.blogspot.ca/

OK... a rather gifted Grade five student but I could find lots of Grade five students here in Nova Scotia who could comprehend what I quote on String Theory.

So.... can you afford eight dollars Canadian for an online e-book?

Can you figure out how to buy a Google book?


https://books.google.ca/books/about/The_Thomas_Book.html?id=kbiGjKJl4D4C

It will be difficult for you to read pages 137 to 170 of this book..... if you are too poor or two cheap to manage to buy the book!!!!!

 

You have no idea who Roger Penrose is or why he applies to CCC theory, a little knowledge is a dangerous thing and you have just exemplified it. You think that my suggestion to listen to a winner of the NOBEL prize in PHYSICS is not a serious response. Hilarious how far ignorance goes! Denis you really have excelled yourself!

 

Here is a quotation from an article that Stephen Hawking Ph. D. contributed to back in the 1990's.

I quote it here:
www.CarbonBias.blogspot.ca/

I am of the belief that GOD EVOLVED.... or learned over infinite time in the past... .but AdaM AND EVE were Created / Invented in a moment in time.... but perhaps millions, billions or even trillions of years before that Covering Cherub Halel was also invented...... and YHWH knew that he would also steal the fruit from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil....... and go off on some seriously messed up psychological experiments even more unethical by definition than the one that Stanley Milgram Ph. D. came up with.

There was once an exceptionally bright Atheist who said that my belief pattern........ was actually a recognized branch of Atheism...... but only the top one percent of the top one percent of "Atheists or Agnostics" are bright enough to define by philosophy in that manner.

The Cyclic Model of the universe /multiverse expands the possible age of the universe / multiverse back to far more than merely thirteen point eight billion years or so.

The Void by near death experiencer Mellen Benedict is similar to chapter thirteen of Stephen Hawking's Universe in many ways.
https://www.near-death.com/experiences/exceptional/mellen-thomas-benedict.html#a06

 

You still have not bothered to find out who Penrose is, its hilarious, now educate yourself particularly if you want to talk about Hawkings, the CCC model and Hawkins partner Penrose!



Now I agree with Penrose on what might be! Again you have made a fool of yourself by quoting what you do not understand.

 

Thank you for finding me a video......
for the record I actually think that Richard Dawkins Ph.D. deserves some credit for his admission regarding the possibility of 'aliens" of some variation or another potentially fitting into human evolution...........
too bad he was so biased against "aliens" not limited to being largely composed of the carbon molecule??!!

 

Frankly that video is excellent and in my opinion fits well with the work by Chaim Henry Tejman M. D. who in my opinion deserves The Origin of Life Prize.

http://www.grandunifiedtheory.org.il/gender/g1.htm

http://www.grandunifiedtheory.org.il/book/life1.htm

http://www.grandunifiedtheory.org.il/fund/fund1.htm

http://www.grandunifiedtheory.org.il/fund/fund3.htm

Dr. Chaim Tejman deserves Origin of Life Prize.

 

Here is the full debate, I must warn you that unless your a genius you will have to watch it over and over again just to understand the concepts Penrose talks about and read lots of other material to fully grasp it. Hell I studied cosmology for months just to understand what started with this interview and I am still doing so.

 

I am merely a janitor / cleaner with a paltry IQ of 118 but I am biased toward a nearly..... INFINITE number of Big Bang type of events...... this is based on the testimony of former Skeptic Mellen Thomas Benedict who I consider to be a highly credible witness of what he saw during his brush with death.


https://www.near-death.com/experiences/exceptional/mellen-thomas-benedict.html#a05

How in the world could Mr. Mellen Benedict come up with a testimony that fits so brilliantly with chapter thirteen of Stephen Hawking's Universe that was entitled The Anthropic Principle??????

An Agnostic variation of the Cyclic Model of the Universe is explained in that chapter as well.

Note the phrase....."PHILOSOPHICAL ARGUMENTS" after the seven minute mark in the debate!!!!! That is where I can squeeze into such discussions as this!

 

Oh ronald what do you even bother to respond to anything I post in a negative manner? Doesn't make sense at all for you to continually respond to them. Besides this post wasn't even directed at you, your buddy gawd is a big boy he can defend himself.

Your atheist religion states there is no god or gods, that is your belief and so anything I post regarding my belief in Almighty God the Creator should have no applicability to you at all because of your disbelief but yet you find a need to respond to certain posts of mine. Why is that ronald? Aren't you sure about your belief in the church of no god fundamentalism?

Now just as much as God has given the unbelievers the free will ability to mock Him, He also has given the free will ability of His believers to defend Him.
And if you find the passages in the Holy Bible that I believe in offensive then don't come to my thread to read them...simple as that.

Like the saying goes, "If you can't take the heat then get out of the kitchen"! ...no pun intended. Man, I like to know who's the author of that saying...what a wise saying indeed!

Now have a good day ronald and be on your way.

 

Actually.... this link that he gave in response to my questions indicates what I consider to be a possible ***** in the armor??!!




For the record.... I am of the belief that
a more Theistic Version of Evolutionary Theory......
that could well emerge from Brigham Young University campus in Jerusalem......
due it being close to the home of Chaim Henry Tejman M. D.

http://www.politicalforum.com/index...a-brilliant-economist.428423/#post-1072460026

Dr. Chaim Tejman deserves Origin of Life Prize.

In my opinion a rather dogmatic..... or at the minimum...... EXCESSIVE respect for the Atheism of Richard Dawkins Ph. D. is dampening the world economy because an INTELLIGENCE composed of fundamental or nearly fundamental energy WHO...... in a sense learned or "evolved" over infinite time in the past and got better and better and better at creating various forms of life.............. would tend to place EXTREMELY HIGH VALUE ON HUMAN LIFE....... and on all life forms....... whereas we Atheistically inclined humans have been deceived into placing VERY LOW ECONOMIC VALUE ON HUMAN LIFE..... and on other life forms!?

 

And the expected reply, nothing but attacking the poster and no attempt to rebutt the post. No I will continue to point out the inconsistency of your religion and ignore the infantile insults that are your only defence. You wanted tough questions and you deliberately ignore any that do not follow your pre prepared answers.

 

I do agree with you that we Christians do indeed face some pretty serious cognitive dissonance......
or "inconsistency of your religion" as you call it.....................
I got so angry with Messiah Yeshua - Jesus by 1990 that I often used four letter words as I prayed during that decade.........

"I want to start an online outreach to Satanists...."

http://www.politicalforum.com/index...start-an-online-outreach-to-satanists.517921/

 

All people have this "innate moral sense" in them, it's part of our conscience, it's engrained in us (I'll explain shortly why that is).

And according to the Holy Bible, human beings were created in God's image. And so part of this image makes us humans moral beings.

We are essentially moral agents, and we make moral choices and we are able to differentiate between what's right and wrong.

Our knowledge of God's law is the basis upon which we differentiate between right and wrong. From two sources that knowledge comes from, it comes from revelation and conscience.

Revelation is self-explanatory. God gave a commandment to Adam and Eve in the Garden of Eden. He gave the Ten Commandments to the Israelites. Of those Ten Commandments, Our Lord Savior Jesus Christ put emphasis on two essential commandments, love God and love your neighbor. All of these represent God’s revelation of His law, which is simply a reflection of His moral character to His people.

The Bible also says that God wrote His law on our hearts. This is conscience. In other words, even without God’s revelation in the commandments, we intuitively know God’s law based on the fact that we were created in His image. However, due to the fall (For reference read Genesis 3), that image is tainted and disfigured, including our conscience. So even though we know God’s law through our conscience, we tend to distort it to our advantage. That is why we need revelation.

We Read in Scripture:

15 They demonstrate that God’s law is written in their hearts, for their own conscience and thoughts either accuse them or tell them they are doing right. Romans 2:15 NLT

Now let me dwell into the forgiveness of sins. The forgiveness of sins from God is His promise of salvation for believers. So believers are cleansed from their sins and are allowed into the Kingdom of Heaven to spend eternity with Him.

But we believers like everyone else still have to be accountable for man's laws here on earth. And so if we are charged with felonious crimes against others, we have to be tried in a court of law, found innocent or guilty, then serve a sentence/punishment whatever that might be that was decided by the judge of the case if found guilty of the charges.

In contrast to man's justice, God's justice is far more lenient for sinners confessing their sins to Him and asking for forgiveness while still in their earthly bodies of course here I'm speaking about a believer in God.

For the unbeliever of God, well they will receive punishment for their sins. They rejected the sin debt payment Our Lord Savior Jesus Christ made on their behalf and so an unpaid sin debt has to be paid by the unbeliever.

And since God is eternal, His forgiveness, His justice is eternal in nature as well. So believers spend eternity in Heaven with Him, unbelievers spend eternity in hell separated from Him for all eternity.

So the day we see ourselves in either heaven or hell, we'll know it was our choice to be there.

It will be too late for the unbelievers to plead for forgiveness then, you have to ask for forgiveness of your sins now while you're still alive in your earthly body. Accept Jesus Christ as your Lord Savior, repent now before it's too late!

We Read in Scripture:

19 Now repent of your sins and turn to God, so that your sins may be wiped away. Acts 3:19 NLT

38 Peter replied, "Each of you must repent of your sins and turn to God, and be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins. Then you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit." Acts 2:38 NLT

10 For the kind of sorrow God wants us to experience leads us away from sin and results in salvation. There’s no regret for that kind of sorrow. But worldly sorrow, which lacks repentance, results in spiritual death. 2 Corinthians 7:10 NLT

 

I'm sure that in the good old days I would have been burned at the stake for blasphemy. BTW, even you have crossed that line numerous times so be extra careful about the standard that you use to lambast other people.

Just remember, that no matter what happens to us, it has already happened to countless other people throughout history. One Japanese guy even got nuked twice in one week. He died of old age.

The Bible says that we are worms. If we are created in your favorite deity's image doesn't that mean that he is also a worm?

 

Hey Dennis you gave me a lot of reading material, it's going to take me weeks to read everything...lol

 

Messiah Yeshua - Jesus has quite a sense of humour by giving me the ability to type fifty words per minute!!!!!!

 

First, I just want to say sorry it took me 7 years to get to your post, I've been taking way too many vacations away from the PF and 38 parts to these threads is like over I would say 26,000 responses...that's some incredible number to respond to and be caught up with, but hey I'm not at all complaining and making excuses...lol

Ok let's get down to business here. Let me begin by saying I believe and have faith that God does exist based on the evidence that I have compiled that influenced/persuaded me into being a believer of Almighty God the Creator! So you could say that in a sense I have proven to myself that Almighty God does exist.

But my own personal proof, of course I know, won't be proof enough for another because the fact remains no one on God's green earth can prove/disprove the existence of Almighty God the Creator to another human being, but to their own self yes,... to another...well...forget about it, you'd just be wasting your time to try, it'll just be an exercise in futility.

Now let me make it perfectly clear, when I say I have proven to myself that God does exist, I don't mean like for example, God visited me one night and He gave me oreo cookies and hot milk and He talked to me about past biblical stories like Noah's Flood that He told us about in His Great Selling Book of All-Time...no!...no!...no! that's not what I'm talking about...lol

Ok let me answer your question by first rephrasing what I said to be more accurate, so my statement now is, "Most atheists just hate the idea that there could be a possibility that God exists, for in their hearts they don't want there to be an Almighty God, a Creator who is the supreme ruler above everyone."

My statement is based on from what I've read from what I've heard, the language that spews out from their disrespectful mouths, the scorn, the ridicule, the vileness, the daily mocking they project towards God. It's just shall we say, a common theme among them. That's clear cut evidence that supports my statement...wouldn't you say?

The clincher is that they don't like what God has revealed in His Best Selling Book of All-Time regarding what He is going to do with the unbelievers (atheists). He is going to punish them for not believing in Him, which is an unpardonable sin, and for all their other sins that they have committed in their lives while living on His green earth.

But you know they could do something about it but they won't because of their stubbornest, their denial, their disbelief, their hatred of Him because of what they read in the Bible, they just don't want there to be a God.

God being omniscient foretold us in Scripture that majority of people were not going to believe in Him. He told us His Kingdom has a narrow gate, the highway to hell has a wide gate for the many who choose that way and that the gateway to life is very narrow, the road is difficult and only a few ever find it.

We have a world with close to 7 billion inhabitants with little over 2 billion of them practicing Christians. That equates to little over 28% of the world's inhabitants right now believe in Him. I'd say yes indeed God is omniscient!

We Read in Scripture:

The Narrow Gate

Our Lord Savior Jesus Christ said,

13 "You can enter God’s Kingdom only through the narrow gate. The highway to hell is broad, and its gate is wide for the many who choose that way. 14 But the gateway to life is very narrow and the road is difficult, and only a few ever find it." Matthew 7:13-14 NLT

Oh trev, I know you have more to your post, I'll get to it a little later....peace!

 

Nope, most atheists think there is lack of significant evidence for the christian god. Again you have invented a strawman atheist in your head that is easy to argue against. Real ones you avoid and use petty insults to try to dissuade them from posting on what you call "your" thread!

So how about some good evidence for the christian god?

Bet all we get is deflection and insults!

 

Yeah I know, you told us you used to be a preacher at a small church when you were young in your twenties. So at that time you knew the Bible well but you had no evidence. I thought that preachers would usually acquire some evidence first to make them feel comfortable before they start preaching the Gospel?

Well for you yeah I can understand you don't hate God, after all at one time you were preaching the Gospel in front of your congregation. But I wouldn't include too many of those atheists, I suppose there are some that want to believe but still they find it very hard to believe, it's because they want undeniable proof. Well God wants people to come to Him through faith, and I don't mean "blind faith".

He is not going to prove to people that He exist by shaping the stars in the night sky to spell out, "I exist, so believe in me!" every so often.

The people that come to Him in faith do that because first they believe His revelation in the Scriptures of the Holy Bible, which as you know Christians refer to it as The Word of God. And more importantly they love Him.

People are blessed who do not see but yet they believe. God wants people to have faith in Him, believe in Him and love Him.

We Read in Scripture:

Our Lord Savior Jesus Christ said,

26 Eight days later the disciples were together again, and this time Thomas was with them. The doors were locked; but suddenly, as before, Jesus was standing among

them. “Peace be with you,” he said. 27 Then he said to Thomas, “Put your finger here, and look at my hands. Put your hand into the wound in my side. Don’t be faithless

any longer. Believe!” 28 “My Lord and my God!” Thomas exclaimed. 29 Then Jesus told him, “You believe because you have seen me. Blessed are those who believe

without seeing me.” John 20:26-29 NLT

 

The first five books written by Moses in the OT do not mention anything about aliens supplying Moses and his people with food and water.

Have you been watching a lot of sci-fi movies? I myself really liked the Star Trek movies, how about you?

 

So are you a sci-fi junkie or something of that ilk? Someone who believes in aliens planting seeds all over the universe...right?