Part 38 of Post Your Tough Questions Regarding Christianity

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  1. tecoyah

    tecoyah Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    According to Mitt (who clearly knows and speaks for God) This God dude is pretty clear that everyone who does not bow before him and do what he says is gonna burn no matter what. It doesn't matter if you heard of him, read his book, or even if you can read in the first place...You're toast. Hey Mitt...ask him if the babies get a break would ya'?
     
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    Why would any Christian believe that God is like Trump? Sending people to hell (deporting them)....taking from the poor and giving it to the filthy rich....How could God be a bigot? How could God do anything negative? God gets the blame for disasters....But God didn't destroy Sodom and Gomorrah, evil did. "You shall know them by their fruits, a good tree doesn't produce bad fruit." The fruits of Trump's first year are, three hurricanes that destroyed much of the southeast and the Caribbean, wildfires the destroyed much of California, Oregon, Washington, Montana, and Colorado. And less than $100 billion spent to help the victims, while $1.5 trillion was given to corporations....adding it to the national debt. Most victims are still trying to recover their lives. 50% of Puerto Rico is still without electricity. Yet Trump and his minions take credit for the economic recovery that is Obama's for the last eight years.
    "you shall reap what you sow." is karma.
    If you wonder what happened to Hitler and his minions, just look at all the people suffering in Syria, Haiti, North Korea, China, and many other cruel government countries.
    Jesus spoke about reincarnation more than once...here's one
    Matthew 17:10-13
    Edgar Cayce spoke of Jesus' incarnations...
    https://www.near-death.com/reincarnation/jesus/edgar-cayce-on-the-past-lives-of-jesus.html

    As Revelation says: “He that killeth with the sword must be killed with the sword.” In order to experience the reaction to his deed, man must come again to confront the one whom he murdered, to confront the energy—not as punishment but as a lesson in the laboratory of earth's schoolroom.
    https://www.summitlighthouse.org/inner-perspectives/reincarnation/
    reincarnations are the classes to learn the lessons that you didn't learn....because God gives you as much time as you need...eternal love. And some people are going to need a very long time....imagine Trump's next life.....lol
     
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    So now deporting people is equivalent to sending someone to hell? I bet you criticized Trump after hearing the phony story of him calling the same places shitholes....
     
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    You are confusing Pauline gibberish with the teachings of Jesus.

    You are also confused with your "all others will go to hell" claim. Jesus says no such thing. Why do you put words in the mouth of Christ ?

    Jesus says - Blessed are the poor in spirit- theirs is the kingdom of heaven Matt 5

    Those who claim to "speak for God" as you have done, and in doing so usurping the position of Jesus ... will not make it according to Jesus.


    Jesus says - 21 “Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven.

    Jesus has made it clear what the will of the Father is. Given you do not know what the will of the Father is, and Jesus says "ONLY those who do the will of the Father" you sure are making some bold claims.

    Jesus has a few words for those that claim to speak for God ... usurpers of the position of Jesus - The Logos.

    22 Many will say to me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name and in your name drive out demons and in your name perform many miracles?’ 23 Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers! Matt 7

     
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    No. Those doing the deporting, should be the one's sent to hell.
    Breaking up families and lives because of some man made laws.
    Being cruel to people, because of some man made laws.
     
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    How is sending someone home cruel?
     
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    Dear Christians. My question is “Will you ever regain the strength, nobility and vigor that carried your people through hundreds of years of plaques and wars?”

    Is not loving your own people a prerequisite for loving others?

    "I came not to bring peace, but to bring a sword" was a memorable quote from Jesus.
     
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    Home is where the heart is. And good Christians should respect that. Not man mad hate.
     
  9. doombug

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    What hate? People should respect laws. They are there for a reason.
     
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    Needing to eat takes precedence over man made laws.
    The only laws a Christian needs to follow are God's laws and Jesus' kindness.
    The laws you speak of can be unchristian. Especially if you send people back to be killed or hungry.
     
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    Oh, so I can rob a bank as long as I buy food with some of the money?

    Puh-leeze, save this crapola for someone who will fall for it. We cannot ignore all laws because some people will be seperated from their family and they only had good intentions. Go sell that crap elsewhere.
     
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    No, you can't. I sell this good christian stuff to christians. If you don't like it, don't participate in christian forums with hypocritical posting.
    Don't pretend to make everyone think you're a christian.

    Why didn't you just say, can you kill someone and take their food?
     
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    Where did I claim to be a christian?
     
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    That's right!...God created the world. Did you think...nothing...created the world? That everything just came about by some unexplainable cosmic accident? Logic tells us, from nothing...nothing comes. There are three sources of material that tell us to know there is a God, first, there is the Bible. Second, there is nature. Third, there is man. These point to the Creator. None are possible by happenstance. None could have been produced by accident.

    We read in Scripture:

    19 They know the truth about God because he has made it obvious to them. 20 For ever since the world was created, people have seen the earth and sky. Through everything God made, they can clearly see his invisible qualities—his eternal power and divine nature. So they have no excuse for not knowing God. ---Romans 1:19-20 NLT


    Well, it's really because of the sinful nature of mankind. We know right from wrong, yet we all do things that are wrong at times, like breaking any one of the Ten Commandments. We are all sinners but not all of us commit the most violent of sins like murdering another fellow human being. So you can't just say, oh well people commit violence because that is human nature, like it is something normal to do because it will always be something wrong to do. Again people commit violence because of their sinful nature.


    No, we have never evolved from the animal world because human beings were never created by our Creator God to be like animals. The Bible tells us that we humans were created in the image of God.

    We Read in Scripture:

    24 Then God said, "Let the earth produce every sort of animal, each producing offspring of the same kind—livestock, small animals that scurry along the ground, and wild animals." And that is what happened. 25 God made all sorts of wild animals, livestock, and small animals, each able to produce offspring of the same kind. And God saw that it was good.

    26 Then God said, "Let us make human beings in our image, to be like us. They will reign over the fish in the sea, the birds in the sky, the livestock, all the wild animals on the earth, and the small animals that scurry along the ground."

    27 So God created human beings in his own image.
    In the image of God he created them;
    male and female he created them.

    28 Then God blessed them and said, "Be fruitful and multiply. Fill the earth and govern it. Reign over the fish in the sea, the birds in the sky, and all the animals that scurry along the ground." ---Genesis 1:24-28 NLT
     
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    As I've told you before, the Bible says many things - mostly taken from earlier stories and myths. Quoting the Bible is no more truth than quoting Gilgamesh. They were all written by men.
     
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    The Bible were written by men who were all inspired by God to write what they wrote.

    We Read in Scripture:

    16 All Scripture is inspired by God and is useful to teach us what is true and to make us realize what is wrong in our lives. It corrects us when we are wrong and teaches us to do what is right. 17 God uses it to prepare and equip his people to do every good work. ---2 Timothy 3:16-17 NLT
     
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    We read much in the Bible, much of which has been disproved.
    Incidentally, Paul was referring to the Tanakh when he wrote those words to Timothy. There were no other scriptures at the time. . So Timothy should accept the Jewish Beliefs?
     
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    President Trump has shown he is a believer in the Almighty Christian God and according to Scripture he will be saved.

    Furthermore I would like to add our President is doing a fantastic job running these United States of America. The economy is booming, there are more jobs than there are people available for them. Companies such as Chrysler, Ford and many others are coming back to this country to build their products here, workers are getting pay raises again, something they didn't see for years.

    His administration is in the process of denuclearizing North Korea (which is a good thing for the entire world besides the United States whom the Noko leader had previously threatened not too long ago about nuking us anywhere in this country)

    ISIS is pretty much annihilated under the strong leadership of our President. The United States is once again taking strong leadership in world (foreign) affairs. His administration is eliminating the individual health care mandate, which means you won't be penalized if you decide not to buy health care insurance coverage. He appointed a conservative judge to the supreme court which is another great thing he did. He has cut everyone's tax and so people have more money for themselves. He is strengthening our military forces that the Obama administration depleted. We can say Merry Christmas again...lol

    Basically what President Trump is doing is making America Great Again!...amen to that bruthaa!
     
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    So....what is it that saved him?

    Was it the infidelity or mistreatment of people?

    Maybe the hateful commentary?

    Perhaps the love of money above all else?

    What is it besides judges?
     
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    You really are naive, aren't you.

    Many economies are 'booming' because the Global economy is going well. Like the UK you have low unemployment because many of your workers have had to take part time jobs and many are in low paid work. Governments don't mention that fact. Your forecast GDP is nothing spectacular over the next few years and with Trumps tariffs policy there is likely to be an outright Trade war which will hurt every economy - even the US. Trumps administration is NOT in the process of denuclearising North Korea. Only Kim can do that. He has been playing a game of poker with the West for many years. Now he has the upper hand with the bargaining chip of nuclear weapons. Why wouldn't he come to the table now. He can ask a lot with the hand he holds. Obama was willing to sit down with Kim, but Kim's hand wasn't strong enough.
    There wasn't a cat in h....'s chance that Kim would use his weapons against anyone - least of all the US. He would have been obliterated. And there was never a chance of the US blasting North Korea without North Korea committing the first offence. It was all bluff and counter bluff.
    The annihilation of ISIS was begun under the policies of Obama which Trump followed - with a slight tweak in the system.
    Trump is strengthening your armed forces by borrowing and adding trillions to your already gross deficit. Obama had to contend with the remnants of Bush's policies and deal with the Financial crisis of 2008. It took years for this to settle down. Without borrowing the US would not have been able to function. The US budget 2017 contained almost word for word the continuation of some Obama policies. Trumps tirade against Obama financial record is not borne out when you take all things into consideration, and the way Trump is going he will exceed even Obama's borrowing over his Presidency.
    The tax system overhaul is welcome, but it is going to leave the US badly short of money in the not so distant future. Then what?

    The US is showing strong leadership? You're joking. The US is withdrawing from almost everything that it has signed in the past. It is trying to force the world to do what the US wants. That's not leadership - that's dictatorship.

    Thank heavens I'm not American
     
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    You don't believe in God yet you want God to send people to hell for deporting people who come into the country illegally? Sorry but you're not making any sense whatsoever.
     
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    Hey Mitt! I thought the cows ate you. Hope you've been doing well. I've missed your nonsense.
     
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    The quote is misunderstood.. The "sword" is the truth NOT a weapon.
     
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    Not true, no one has disproven anything regarding the Holy Bible, except of course we do have an abundance of speculations, flawed opinions, denials, mockery etc. towards the Bible from the non-believing crowd... skeptics/critics.

    Where we can check biblical claims against verifiable truth, the Bible proves itself accurate. History, archaeology, science, and philosophy have shown Scripture to be factual and consistent.

    Aren't you aware that The Jewish Bible (also called the Hebrew Bible or Tanakh) is another term for what Christians call the Old Testament portion of the Bible?

    Let's not forget that the Christian Holy Bible consists of the Old Testament (Tanakh) as well as the New Testament. But again the important point here is that Paul taught/reminded Timothy that All Scripture is inspired by God and was not just merely written by men as you claim it to be. No wonder you have no faith in God. You believe men made up all the stories in the Bible.

    We Read in Scripture:

    16 All Scripture is inspired by God and is useful to teach us what is true and to make us realize what is wrong in our lives. It corrects us when we are wrong and teaches us to do what is right. 17 God uses it to prepare and equip his people to do every good work. ---2 Timothy 3:16-17 NLT
     
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    The Bible is poems, letters and myths.. It is NOT accurate when it comes to history or science.
     
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