Part 39 of Post Your Tough Questions Regarding Christianity

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  1. Giftedone

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    "What tough Questions" - What is this dance of deception Brother Todd - pretending you have answers. I have asked you which God of the Bible you worship - even this simple question send you running to hide under a chair -- peeping head out only to call names.

    Now you state what has been told to you from the Bible is "perverse" calling me perverse to telling you about the Bible. It is not my fault the Bible says what it does. What is perverse is claiming to believe in a book that you run from .. calling others swine for not following this path of deception ... egged on down that path by the deception of your mentor Brother Mitt.

    Why are you ashamed of your God Brother Todd .. It is not those who point this shame out who are the "Swine" in the room.
     
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    Thank you for this well thought out post.

    You see the different religions as God telling us all but then us like waking from a dream and the knowledge fading or becoming fuzzy, so we each try to piece it back together and so we come to different and conflicting understandings of it? Do I read you clearly?

    If so, that still leaves the question of why God would do that? Would that not mean that he either communicated suboptimally or designed us unable to retain the information clearly?

    Or maybe you could posit that man's fallen nature and sin prevents us from understanding and had we not fallen then we would understand clearly. But then the question would be how would we know what sin even is. You can't follow orders you can't read or that you aren't aware of, even if they got lost or smudged by yourself, unwittingly or even deliberately.

    And the question would also remain of how could you know your version of Christianity or that Christianity itself is correct, rather than say Hinduism or Buddhism, etc.

    It would be like entering a room with 1000 numbered doors, spinning in a circle, breaking the lights so it's pitch black, then being told to exit the room through door number 777, no longer being able to see the numbers. And God would be watching, having the ability to turn the lights back on, but choosing not to, and judging you based on which door you choose.
     
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    These two can't manage to tell us which God of the Bible they worship .. never mind answer "tough questions"

    "What tough Questions" ?

    How about starting with the name of the God you worship Brother Mitt. That simple question has you stumped and running for the hills talking to ghosts, along with your adherent Brother Todd .. who now refers to the Bible as "Perverse"

    What has you both so ashamed of this God you claim to worship ?
     
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    You know gift you have lost your mind...at least the memory & honesty part of it...for I answered this question of yours several times now but you keep asking the same question over and over.

    Let's see now, the last time I answered it was on post #1144 on pg. 46 of this thread Part 39 and previous before this was on post #943 on pg. 38 of this thread Part 39.
    You know gift they say taking the pill supplement Prevagen improves one's memory, maybe you should give it a try. But before you decide to take the supplement read the key takeaways about Prevagen below:

    Key takeaways:

    Prevagen is an over-the-counter (OTC) supplement that claims to support brain health and boost your memory.

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    Obviously you misunderstood Brother Todd. He wasn't referring to the Bible as "Perverse" but it was you he was mocking and referring to as being "Perverse".

    Sorry gift but you're not making any sense. Brother Todd and I (Brother Mitt) have never ever expressed feelings that we are so ashamed of the Creator Almighty God. It's just you being your usual self of being dishonest and deceptive of what you say. You're like your daddy, the father of all lies & deception the devil himself count lucifer.

    Ok gift thanks for your post, hope you try to improve your memory and also try to be more intellectually honest in your postings for a pleasant change.
     
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    Once again you lie in a bed of deceit .. your answer (below) was addressed.. The Trinity is not the name of a God in the Bible nor name of the Christian God
    The name of the Christian God is not "Trinity" No wonder you seem so confused all the time .. your knowledge of the Bible so poor that you can't even figure out what the name of the God you worship is.. the question too tough for you.

    You are the confused one .. Todd was referring to what was related to him from the Bible as Perverse unable to deal with the reality of Temple Prostitutes in the house of the God he worships ..

    What is perverse is your claim that the name of the the Cristian God is "Trinity" .. a big fail on that simple question Brother Mitt .. again walking down the path of deceit .. leading Brother Todd down with you

    For as we read in Scripture "If anyone causes one of these little ones—those who believe in me—to stumble, it would be better for them to have a large millstone hung around their neck and to be drowned in the depths of the sea"
     
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    Why would a God need a name anyway?

    Also, I note that instead of giving a simple one word answer to your question (ie, just saying the name) or admitting he doesn't know or can't decide, or stating a reason he refuses to answer, Mitt gave you a long rambling distraction post. He did the same with me.
     
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    Is not about whether or not God needs a name. The point is that you have these folks evangelizing about some God who they know nothing about .. can't state which God of the Bible it is that they worship. What is more ridiculous is that they claim to know the thoughts of this God .. what this God thinks .. how this God plan's to save them .. but have no idea who this God is - hence the long rambling distraction.

    These folks claim to believe in the Bible .. but run away and hide from passages in the Bible that conflict with some man made dogma they worship.

    Then you have Mitt's adherent also unable to tell us which God he worships .. can only hide in the corner .. peeking out on occasion to name call in an attempt demonize the messenger.. incapable of supporting his faith/belief .. in some dance of avoidance and denial.
     
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    Do you read the Bible daily Gifted?
     
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    Why are you posting to me without quoting something I said .. hiding again .. hoping I will not notice .. and failing to address the discussion in any way.

    Not every day, but most days Brother Todd -- Perhaps if you did the same you might know the name of the God of Abraham .. the God you claim to worship and for whome you speak .. but, have no idea who this God is.
     
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    You don't say...very interesting above! So in your educated opinion women are basically in control of what's going on in the world...hmm...very interesting! Then can we blame women for not having better control of their men?...right?...lol

    I mean look at the entire world...it is really in a mess, no one is totally secured in their lives. You can go shopping at your local grocery store only to be mowed down by a crazy hateful lunatic and then there is another one of these crazy hateful lunatic you have to be aware of that wants to shove you onto the tracks of an oncoming train.

    Let's not forget scam artists that on a daily basis 24/7 do their best to try to steal your hard earned money...man, such a mess of a world! Would you feel safe right now to invest your hard earned dollars into cryptocurrency?...ouch! so many millions world-wide lost billions of dollars collectively. One day there were billions...poof!...next day there was 0 with the billions in the pockets of these scam artists.

    You women are not doing a good job in controlling your men that above said you have control over.

    Well the Bible tells us we human beings are not righteous, not even one...man ain't that the truth and nothing but the truth!!

    I don't know about you above but I wholeheartedly agree with the Bible because we are all indeed sinners and no one is 100% righteous. Some sinners worst than others but sadly nevertheless we are all sinners.

    We Read in Scripture:

    All People Are Sinners


    9 Well then, should we conclude that we Jews are better than others? No, not at all, for we have already shown that all people, whether Jews or Gentiles,[a] are under the power of sin. 10 As the Scriptures say,
    “No one is righteous—
    not even one.
    11 No one is truly wise;
    no one is seeking God.
    12 All have turned away;
    all have become useless.
    No one does good,
    not a single one.”
    13 “Their talk is foul, like the stench from an open grave.
    Their tongues are filled with lies.”
    “Snake venom drips from their lips.”[c]
    14 “Their mouths are full of cursing and bitterness.”[d]
    15 “They rush to commit murder.
    16 Destruction and misery always follow them.
    17 They don’t know where to find peace.”[e]
    18 “They have no fear of God at all.”[f] Romans 3:9-18 NLT

    Ok thanks above for your post, I just got a few more comments you've made to respond to.
     
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    ....

    Did AboveAlpha transition to a woman in the many years between his/her post and Mitt's response?

    In the paragraphs both immediately before and immediately after the one Mitt quotes above, AboveAlpha explicitly identified as male.
     
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    Most religious folks do. If they didn't then they wouldn't say anything about how we should act or what God wants them to do. It would be a quiet religion that doesn't spread much, and would likely die out or shrink to the point of insignificance.

    I think they think they know. I think they are just afraid to examine their logic or their text because they are afraid they may find it wanting. I think it's just a display of how weak their faith actually is.

    Yes, to an extreme here I rarely see. I think it shows their fear to question, which shows the weakness of their faith. Mitt here is actually responding to posts from years ago, pretending he is bravely responding to tough questions, addressing the poster who last posted in 2017, and knowing the poster will never know Mitt bravely "responded". And even then misrepresenting what the poster wrote. That's how confident Mitt is.
     
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    Well above I don't really think you truly know what a true Alpha Male is. And the jolly good fella ask, "Did AboveAlpha transition to a woman in the many years between his/her post and Mitt's response"?...lol Don't mind the jolly good fella, he has a habit of misinterpreting what he reads at times kind of like his brother who thinks he's the gifted one...lol

    Here let me present what I found on the net from theadultman.com site that gives a more complete description of an Alpha Male below:

    The Alpha Male Explained: 9 True Signs You’re an Alpha

    1. They’re Keenly Aware of Status
    2. They Tend to be Good Looking
    3. They’re Effective Leaders and Exist at the Top of Their Status Hierarchies
    4. They’re Confident
    5. They’re Extroverted
    6. They’re Visionary
    7. They’re Successful with Women
    8. They Don’t Shy Away from Conflict
    9. They Use Body Language to Appear Larger Than Life

    Now if you really what to read an in-depth explanation of these 9 signs of an Alpha Male click on link below:

    https://theadultman.com/love-and-lust/alpha-male/

    "without women in this world...we men would be lost"...huh? I think you are lost in your own self-absorbed world alpha. You're a guy who believes he's above an Alpha Male, that's why you chose the name AboveAlpha here at the PF...right?...lol

    But anyway, truth be told, without women in this world there would be no human race. We (men) would not exist, they (women) would not exist because there would be no procreation.

    That's why our Creator Almighty God created males & females in all the living beings that He created so as to perpetuate all the different living species to continue on indefinitely until the day the Creator Almighty God decides to end it.

    We Read in Scripture:

    20 Then God said, “Let the waters swarm with fish and other life. Let the skies be filled with birds of every kind.” 21 So God created great sea creatures and every living thing that scurries and swarms in the water, and every sort of bird—each producing offspring of the same kind. And God saw that it was good. 22 Then God blessed them, saying, “Be fruitful and multiply. Let the fish fill the seas, and let the birds multiply on the earth.”

    23 And evening passed and morning came, marking the fifth day.

    24 Then God said, “Let the earth produce every sort of animal, each producing offspring of the same kind—livestock, small animals that scurry along the ground, and wild animals.” And that is what happened. 25 God made all sorts of wild animals, livestock, and small animals, each able to produce offspring of the same kind. And God saw that it was good.

    26 Then God said, “Let us make human beings[a] in our image, to be like us. They will reign over the fish in the sea, the birds in the sky, the livestock, all the wild animals on the earth, and the small animals that scurry along the ground.”

    27 So God created human beings[c] in his own image.
    In the image of God he created them;
    male and female he created them.

    28 Then God blessed them and said, “Be fruitful and multiply. Fill the earth and govern it. Reign over the fish in the sea, the birds in the sky, and all the animals that scurry along the ground.” Genesis 1:20-28 NLT

    10 But the day of the Lord will come as unexpectedly as a thief. Then the heavens will pass away with a terrible noise, and the very elements themselves will disappear in fire, and the earth and everything on it will be found to deserve judgment.[a]

    11 Since everything around us is going to be destroyed like this, what holy and godly lives you should live, 12 looking forward to the day of God and hurrying it along. On that day, he will set the heavens on fire, and the elements will melt away in the flames. 13 But we are looking forward to the new heavens and new earth he has promised, a world filled with God’s righteousness. 2 Peter 3:10-11 NLT

    Our brilliant scientist tells us that there will be a day when the universe will end by imploding on itself. The universe is expanding at the moment but it will eventually contract/implode on itself...they (scientists) call it the "Big Crunch".

    The Bible told us there will be an end to the universe thousands of year ago way before our scientists of today have theorized this to be the fate of the universe.

    Well ok above thanks for your post, it was a pleasure for me to respond to all of your comments. Catch you later dude.
     
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    Mitt's dishonesty appears to be endless. He now quotes AboveAlpha having stated he is male, after I pointed out Mitt just declared AboveAlpha to be female, and Mitt now he tries to project his mistake onto me, because I called him out on it. Wow. Jesus would be proud eh?

    ... He says to a guy who hasn't posted since 2017, and who almost certainly will never read Mitts brave and bold response.
     
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    You have 1 misunderstanding with me and you over react to it and call me out as having endless dishonesty...lol...simmer down my jolly good fella.

    Lol. The issue here is your inability to comprehend what you read correctly in other words you misinterpreted what I said.

    I have never mistaken above as being a woman. I always knew he was a male for a long time now. This is not the first post from above that I have responded to.

    Furthermore I read his entire post initially that I have been currently responding to but chose to respond to bits and pieces of it because his post was a very long one and my responses would be long as well and I wouldn't be able to get all my responses in on one post of mine.

    So of course I read the very last segment of his post where he was boasting and considered himself to be an Alpha Male.

    Now let me bring up my statement that I made where you misinterpreted it.

    My statement above is proper grammar and you misinterpreted it because you have comprehension issues. You assumed I was including above as being part of these "women" my statement was referring to.

    Now if I had said something such as this, "You women are not doing a good job in controlling your men that above who by the way is a woman herself said you have control over".

    Then that statement would clearly indicate I was including above as being a woman.

    So what? He has not been banned and so his account is still active and valid. I only respond to members who still have active membership, never to banned ones. He might return one day and respond to my responses. I myself was gone for a while not as long as above but nevertheless I was gone for almost 10 months then I returned.

    Lastly, I generated 39 threads and at the moment I'm responding to Part 11. So yes I am far behind but my mission is to respond to all these 39 threads of mine. My first post on this thread explains it all, maybe you should read it:

    To update it, I have responded to all of Part 1 thru Part 10 and so I still have to respond to Part 11 thru Part 39 of this thread.

    Ok my jolly good fella thanks for your post, it was a pleasure for me to correct your mistake. Try your best not to misinterpret what you read and don't assume anything like how you did with my statement....you heeyaaah!...lol

    And go ahead have the last word if you want but don't expect me to respond to it because I have to move on with other questions/comments on Part 11. As far as I'm concerned this matter is cleared up, bottom line is that you misinterpreted what I said and made an assumption...a wrong assumption I might add.

    And don't be like the not so gifted one who likes to have endless debates...to me that is so childish.
     
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    In English "you" refers to the person you are addressing. You were addressing AboveAlpha.

    You said "you women". It could have been a typo for "your women", but when I pointed out the error, you instead of recognizing and correcting it, decided to try to attribute it to me. That's pure dishonesty, and you well know it. Jesus would not be proud.

    Too bad you can't admit to what you did, both in misgendering Alpha and then in pretending I did.

    You will probably respond in 5 years after I have left the forum. We understand your strategy.
     
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    Why would you take a drug that doesn't have proof of efficacy AND is known to have serious safety concerns? Don't you believe that if this drug worked, it would have huge financial benefit to any corporation that attained FDA certification???

    Isn't that the central fallacy of all homeopathy?

    In fact, isn't that the DANGER of homeopathy - the fact that people who take this garbage are at risk due to safety concerns AND are failing to get real medical attention for problems that are sure to become harder to treat as time gets wasted?
     
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    Excellent Post Mr. Penguin :)

    The Jews .. have a long culture.. of learning from the past .. and they actually have one that goes back a long time. To be a Jew is to question .. question everything .. even God. .. and I am not Jewish case you were thinking I was blowing smoke up my own backside .. not that I am immune to that but not this time the case :)

    Build foundation on Solid Rock rather than Sand sayeth the Lord .. Last words in his most famous of Sermons. The Scripture that Brothers T&M run from like Sataniel is chasing behind .. the "Free Pass" through Judgment .. through the pearly gates .. challenged.

    The "Thought Stopping" so intense .. Brother M out talking to ghosts from a decade ago . T heeling like well trained Padawan .. and doing it intentionally .. thinking how smartly they have avoided tough question .. giggling as they go ..

    and what "tough question" garnered this triggered response .. like pushing B-57 on the record machine .. you know which song is coming .. that old avoidance song.

    "Whats the name of your God"
    Endless dishonesty .. followed by demonization of debate as childish .. essentially .. "Don't question my endless dishonesty".. in a round-about kind of way

    Spit out that poison lizard Brother Mitt . exercize those demons .. and tell us the name of your God .. and help out Brother Todd
    .
     
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    It's necessary above because if you leave out accepting/believing Jesus Christ as your Lord Savior then you will not be saved but will be condemned and be punished for your sins and forever be separated from God for all eternity.

    You can do all the good works in the world but that alone won't save you from punishment of your sins.

    But when you accept/believe Jesus Christ as your Lord Savior, ask Him for forgiveness of your sins that will be the start of your Christian life into trusting in God and trusting His Son Jesus Christ and you will be saved and one day will have a room in His Father's home, the Kingdom of God.

    And so accepting/believing Jesus Christ as your Lord Savior is the Way to the Father.

    We Read in Scripture:

    Jesus, the Way to the Father


    14 “Don’t let your hearts be troubled. Trust in God, and trust also in me. 2 There is more than enough room in my Father’s home.[a] If this were not so, would I have told you that I am going to prepare a place for you? 3 When everything is ready, I will come and get you, so that you will always be with me where I am. 4 And you know the way to where I am going.”

    5 “No, we don’t know, Lord,” Thomas said. “We have no idea where you are going, so how can we know the way?”

    6 Jesus told him, “I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one can come to the Father except through me. 7 If you had really known me, you would know who my Father is.[c] From now on, you do know him and have seen him!”

    8 Philip said, “Lord, show us the Father, and we will be satisfied.”

    9 Jesus replied, “Have I been with you all this time, Philip, and yet you still don’t know who I am? Anyone who has seen me has seen the Father! So why are you asking me to show him to you? 10 Don’t you believe that I am in the Father and the Father is in me? The words I speak are not my own, but my Father who lives in me does his work through me. 11 Just believe that I am in the Father and the Father is in me. Or at least believe because of the work you have seen me do.

    12 “I tell you the truth, anyone who believes in me will do the same works I have done, and even greater works, because I am going to be with the Father. 13 You can ask for anything in my name, and I will do it, so that the Son can bring glory to the Father. 14 Yes, ask me for anything in my name, and I will do it! John 14:1-14 NLT

    Ok above thanks for your post.
     
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    Yes. You need to praise the death and suffering of an innocent volunteer. Only then can you be forgiven for those bad things your ancestor did. Doing good in the world? Useless. Only blood and suffering count, and of course not your own.... Somebody else's.

    This is the most good and moral.
     
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    No above, the lost are people like you, the unbelievers, not faithful Christians who put their trust/belief in the Lord Savior Jesus Christ.

    But if you want to stay forever lost that's your choice and so whatever happens to you in the eternity will be of your own choosing.

    Our Creator Almighty God gave each and everyone of us the free will to choose to believe or not believe in Him. I choose belief, you choose disbelief...so be it.

    We Read in Scripture:

    16 For this is how God loved the world: He gave his one and only Son, so that everyone who believes in him will not perish but have eternal life." John 3:16 NLT

    Ok above thanks for your post.
     
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    Well Will I suppose when people are desperate they'll take anything to relieve their misery/pain...etc.

    Now in regards to this Prevagen supplement, you see the manufacturers promoting it all the time on TV ads. It probably does work for some people and not for others. Would be interesting to know how effective it truly is.

    Ok Will thanks for your post.
     
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    How do you "choose" belief over non belief?

    Could you "choose" to believe in Santa Claus? The Loch Ness Monster? Spider-Man?

    I really want to know how you "choose" to believe in something?

    Personally I don't "choose" to believe. I examine the evidence. If the evidence convinces me then I believe...if it does not then I will lack belief. It's not a choice, it's a matter of critical thinking.
     
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    That's because you lack great powers of self delusion, also known as faith.
     
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    I examined the evidence and the evidence that I examined with a fine tooth comb convinced me adequately enough to believe. So I personally chose belief in the Creator Almighty God over non belief of Him.

    You are free to choose to believe in anything you want. I once believed I was going to be a billionaire but I just don't believe that anymore.

    I already told you with my first response I gave you that pertains to the Creator Almighty God.

    Critical thinking led you to make a choice. Everyone of us make "choices" all the time. I bet you are going to make a "choice" on what you're going to stuff your face tonight at dinner time...lol

    Ok N35 thanks for your post, it was a pleasure for me to respond to it. I had a choice of responding to you now or wait till tomorrow but after some critical thinking I chose to respond to you now.
     
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