Part 7 of Post Your Tough Questions Regarding Christianity

The only reference to an expulsion is about Lepers. See "Manetho"... unless you think they were Hyksos????

The Bible says 600,00 able bodied men and two midwives plus, women, children, parents, the bones of Joseph and their hers.

 

Not according to Geologists.

AboveAlpha

 

Yes.. according to geologists.. You are about 20 years behind the science.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Sea_deluge_hypothesis

AboveAlpha

 

Oh? There is a difference of opinion among geologists, but the logic of it would have it a slow event.

 

So read it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Sea_deluge_hypothesis

 

I really wish you would learn to use the quote function the way the rest of us do.
Just making sense of your reply style is a bit of a challenge.
You would present as a more thoughtful and capable person if you took time to learn how to post properly.

Now that aside, no, to your question if you are making sense. Im not sure if you are expressing doubt, if so, good, because you are not making sense.

Why? Because your ideas are based on a major falsehood:

It is known for a 100% certainty that said flood did not happen.

Now, you have read things by sincere or seemingly sincere writers saying that this is not so.

Possibly you overlook that people wont always tell the truth, even when the are speaking on behalf of your religion. What I call "creosites" (creationist websites) are loaded with falsehoods of every sort.

(If you dont think so, here is an easy one; the OEC say the YEC are wrong)

You yourself in all sincerity have been spreading a falsehood or two. The things you present as flood evidence.
The statement that nobody knows if there was a flood.

Calling me delusional for stating an obvious and well known fact should be beneath you.

This thing you are trying to use as an "out" that it is necessary to have 100% of all knowledge in \order to know there was no flood is just nonsense. Might as well say the same thing about dinosaurs,
doubt they ever existed because nobody has this "100% of all knowledge:.

Your statement that nobody knows if there was a flood is a falsehood on your soul.

 

So at least you do agree that parts of the Bible especially starting from the Book of Leviticus to the New Testament are factual and that it is only the Genesis and parts of Exodus that still needs to be examine?
If this is so, then as far as the dinosaurs extinction scientist agree that a global natural catastrophe is what cause their extinction a global disaster that they agree can and could happen. And I agree they did not die instantly they perish and disappear gradually how gradually no body really knows but what is known is that they did perish and disappeared in a certain span of time. Noah's flood reflect that same theory of global disaster that could result in the extinction or massive lost of lives.

 

As long as you understand that is just what you believe, not what is real or true, there is little to discuss.

Other, maybe, than how it is you think that believing things that are demonstrably not true is gonna get ya to heaven.

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It nowhere says you should deliberately and negligently believe / spread falsehoods.

So why do you do it?

 

Scientists do NOT agree about the Dinosaurs.. and there are plenty of sharks in the Mediterranean..

Leviticus and Deuteronomy were written very late.. During and after the Babylonian exile.

 

The flood is symbolic of death and judgment, the Ark represents salvation..... Its not about how many animals or how many Polar Bears and Cobras or what they did with the mountains of poop.

How did Joshua makes the sun stand still?

 

If scientist do not agree as you have pointed out about the sudden extinction of the dinosaurs that they believe was cause by a global natural catastrophe even though it is an establish fact that those dinosaurs did disappeared all of a sudden then what is wrong with the Bible Noah's' flood story? If you can not accept what scientist have agree upon how much more about the Noah's flood? I think it is best that you should reconcile yourself first with secular findings in regards to natural disaster, ice age, land bridges, extinction of the dinosaurs before we can discuss about Noah's flood especially since we are trying to grasp the relationship of Noah's flood with scientific studies in the possibility of a global natural disaster reality.

 

What makes you believe such nonsense? Show where in the bible what you believe.

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History books give dates, when, according to the bible, did the flood happen? Being an history book and all.

 

Scientists do NOT agree that all the Dinosaurs died at the same time..... AND there are plenty of sharks in the Mediterranean ... I listed them for you earlier.

There is NO universal flood footprint... Or, do you discount geology, archeology and all science?

 

Quote Posted by dairyair on pg. 45 #449 of Part 3 in response to WanRen's post

Yes, Muslim God is a false god, they do not believe in the real God of Abraham who is Jesus Christ. Muslim god is not my God, my God is Jesus Christ. Ask any Muslim do they believe the God of Abraham Jesus Christ? They will answer you with a big word NO but be careful not to persist with an argument or else they'll jihad you. (Post by WanRen)

You are mistaken or lying. Their God is the God of Abraham. Just ask one. (Post by dairyair in response to WanRen's post above)
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Are you incapable of understanding plain English? It appears so! The God of Abraham is Jesus Christ as WanRen noted from the Christian point of view.

The Muslims don't believe that Jesus Christ is God, therefore their God of Abraham is not the same as the Christian God of Abraham and so in the Christian perspective the Muslim God is a false god.

We, Christians believe we are worshipping God in the right way and Muslims believe they are worshipping God in the right way, only one religion is right and the other is wrong.

You might ask who is right then?...to be fair to both sides the answer is only God knows.

 

Muslims do believe in the God of Abraham.. Abraham was the father of the Arabs. Abraham never said anything about Jesus.. and Abraham wasn't a Jew.. He was a "friend of God".

 

How could Abraham even mention Jesus when Jesus was born at least 1,800 yrs. after Abraham...lol

 

Exactly....

 

Yes, exactly you don't know what you are talking about...lol

 

So you think that the extinction of the dinosaurs are nonsense if that is the case then the more you will think the Bible is nonsense, so what's the point since you believe everything is nonsense I believe that you should first make it clear as to what you think or is accepted as not nonsense.

As far as the Bible. I have said that everything in the New Testament and parts of the Old Testament especially starting from the Books of Leviticus have been proven to be factual unless you are saying that what the Bible have mention and
today have been proven to be factual such as the existence of Egypt, Assyria, Babylon, Persia, Canaan, cities of Sodom and Gomorrah are all fictitious or Israel for that matter??

History books could not provide the exact dates as to when the dinosaurs became extinct. The Bible did state that such a global disaster did happen that cause the extinction of most living things on earth, a global disaster that conform with modern science that such global disaster can and could have happen that explain the sudden extinction of those once powerful dinosaurs that roam the earth.

 

Lets see, this from the guy who thinks there is evidence for Noah's flood?

You are getting the idea with the quote function tho! So maybe you are not beyond
the reach of common sense.

 

No one has said those cities were fictitious... The STORIES are fictitious.

The flood was NOT universal.. It was local... They didn't have Google Earth or any capability to LOOK at the whole earth.