Part 7 of Post Your Tough Questions Regarding Christianity

I agree with you that scientist do not agree that all the dinosaurs died at the same time they do agree as I have mention that they GRADUALLY died out into extinction how, they do not not know but one thing they are very sure of is that those dinosaurs extinction was cause by a global disaster which would conform with the Noah's flood that such a global disaster can and could happen in fact scientist strongly predict that such global disaster will happen again.
I do not discount geology, archeology and all science nor do I discount the Bible. Are you denying that a global disaster that cause the extinction of those dinosaurs occur? If so then you are saying the scientist who are mostly none religious are wrong to theorize that a global disaster occur that cause the extinction of those dinosaurs?

 

No trace of S and G has been found.

 

The big dinosaurs died out .. the small ones evolved into birds....

Since evolution takes a long time and you think that Noah's flood killed the dinosaurs do you also think that man co-existed witht the dinosaurs.

 

Ok let us now try to isolate isolate the story then that the Noah's flood was a localize event which would make sense because the world during that time are only as vast as the local people can see or imagine. People in the Mesopotamia region or in Egypt are not aware of the pacific or the existence of the American continent their world is limited to their local region and if that is the case what the Bible said about a global flood is actually referring to the world within the people of Noah's time and if that is the case the reality of such local climatic disaster is more possible as we have witness is still happening in areas such as in the Pacific when strong typhoons will bring massive flooding to entire islands such as Taiwan, Philippines, Hawaii or Japan those islands 5000 years ago when struck with such typhoons with no modern gps, medicine, or transportation and communication will be consider by the local people end of the world and the destruction and death to lives will be massive especially if they have no where to flee or no sign of relief from foreign countries to help them evacuate to safer areas.

You accept that the Bible is accurate in mentioning the existence those ancient cities and empires such as Egypt, Babylon, Assyria, Persia, Sodom and Gomorrah but you are saying the stories are fictitious what is fictitious about the wars that Babylon, Persia, Assyria or Egypt have wage against the many tribes and against each other that include the Jews of Joshua, Saul, David and Solomon that history has conform did occur and did happen the wars that shape the nation of Israel?

 

Quote Posted by GraspingforPeace on pg. 45 #450 of Part 3 in response to WanRen's post

The Noah's flood in Mesopotamia has been proven to be true and that is the stepping stone to understand and research if the other parts of the world experience the same flood during Noah's time. But since you can not accept the facts that the Noah flood did happen there is no point to expand to the other parts of the world. (Post by WanRen)

That is just flat out untrue. Yes, there is evidence of a local flood around the Black Sea. There is NO evidence that there was a 600 year old man that had built what would have been the largest wooden ship IN HISTORY, placed two of every living "kind" in it, OR that there were super storms ravaging the planet which caused the flood. The theory is that glacial melting created a flood around the Black Sea. No, not 40 days and 40 nights of supernatural rain. GLACIAL MELTING. (Post by GfP in response to WanRen's post above)
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You sound like your brother taikoo...always in denial. How can anyone say with 100% certainty what happened or didn't happen several thousands of years ago.

Furthermore absence of evidence isn't evidence of absence. Dig your finite mind around that argument!

 

How did Joshua make the sun stand still?

David and Solomon may have been literary devices.. Archeologists now attribute the construction projects of Solomon to have been the work of King Omri.

The Hebrews had NO rich cultural heritage or historical narrative of their own... so they borrowed from Babylon ...

 

Noah's story is an embellishment on a local flood story .. or may several local flood stories from the Euphrates River. Geologists know them to be true because of the flood sediment laid down by the flood.

They also know dates because of the Sumerian Kings List.

They know that barges traveled down river carrying grain, beer and livestock.

The result of this synthesis is a reconstruction of a lost legend about a Sumerian king named Ziusudra who was chief executive of the city-state Shuruppak at the end of the Jemdet Nasr period about 2900 BC. A six-day thunderstorm caused the Euphrates River to rise 15 cubits, overflow the levees, and flood Shuruppak and a few other cities in Sumer. A few feet of yellow sediment deposited by this river flood is archaeologically attested and artifacts at about this sediment level have been radiocarbon dated.

When the levees overflowed, Ziusudra (Noah) boarded a commercial river barge that had been hauling grain, beer, and other cargo on the Euphrates River. The barge floated down the river into the Persian (Arabian) Gulf where it grounded in an estuary at the mouth of the river. Ziusudra (Noah) then offered a sacrifice on an altar at the top of a nearby hill which storytellers mistranslated as mountain. This led them to falsely assume that the nearby barge had grounded on top of a mountain. Actually it never came close to a mountain.

continued.

http://www.flood-myth.com/

 

Genesis 7:20. A literal translation from Hebrew is "Five ten cubits up-from-there rose the waters and they covered the hills." The word mi-la-ma'al-ah meaning 'up from there' modifies 'rose' in the 15 cubits clause and is not in the same clause as hills/mountains. It is a mistranslation to say the waters rose 15 cubits above the mountains. The 15 cubits refers to how much the water rose, not how deep the water was. Depths would be different at different locations. As a modern news reporter might say, the water rose 22 feet above flood stage.

Sumer is VERY flat.

 

Much the way the Europeans borrowed the cultural / religious legacy of the Hebrews as if it were their story and their god.

 

Same as there is no mistaking what the earth itself tells us, which is that your "world wide global" flood is a myth.

 

Check this out.. Its an easy read.

http://www.flood-myth.com/

 

Mitt Mitt Mitt.
We know what it says.
It isn't a factual account.
You can learn to live with this, it doesn't have to destroy your faith. And you can have integrity to boot!

 

It appears that no value is placed on integrity, diligence, intelligence or any related virtues.

 

As I said before, the flood was the Assyrians or Babylonians sweeping across the land conquering everything in sight. Fifteen minutes later there were cities and people all over the area. That would have never been possible if salt water had covered the tallest mountains in the world. http://www.science.co.il/Maps-Near-East-Empires.asp

Why did talking snakes and talking donkeys die out?

 

Time frame is completely wrong...........

 

There's a news report about a talking snake in an Italian church and a talking donkey in an American church. Some people claim that they've seen zombies.

 

Actually there are many things in scripture that did not happened ... Like the Exodus, the Flood and Jonah being swallowed by a fish. Joshua didn't make the sun stand still. Those are all teaching narratives... didactic literature.

Is your faith dependent on turning snakes into sticks and back into snakes again?

 

Your "one hundred percent of all knowledge" is the sorriest bit of nonsense that even you post here.
Interesting that the word "denial" comes to your mind,tho.

You being the one who denies that there is not one scrap of evidence for this flood that would have been the biggest geological event to hit the earth, denial that every last data bit that relates to the subject from anywhere on earth says, no flood.

Denial that it is weird that it would turn out that way, if you were right.

Sheesh, what a disgrace.

 

Why do you really believe the fairy tale? Is it because the Jews supposedly wrote it or is it for some other reason? If the characters were of a different ethnicity but the story was the same would you still believe it?