'Particle stuff.'

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  1. Brett Nortje

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    I have read that particles are sorted by them being at different "spins." before we continue, we need to know what a spin is. to me, a spin is something that draws others towards it, like the 'graviton.' these spins hold matter together, be they gas, liquid or solid. applied to chemistry, all atoms need to be pulled together the same way our bodies are pulled together by their atoms and particles that 'spin.' spin could also refer to a certain type of speed they circulate at, that they are drawn to a central particle, but the fact that 'the world was wild' and then they just started snatching at each other, instead of needing to justify themselves, means that the universe is drawn together while the other options would resolve to be 'a non working universe,' one that does not 'make sense.' why it makes sense, who cares - what will we be able to accomplish with recreating the universe... some parts of it yes, but the whole thing?

    Let's quickly take a look at the mysterious graviton? this particle adds mass to matter, yes? this is what they would have you believe, while i believe that it is merely a combination of all the particles in the atom, as, all particles are drawn together because they have mass, so that draws them together, that and charge.
     
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    If all the quarks were to spin the negative way, there would be chaos! thankfully, the most of the mass is spinning the right way, as, that means that there is an excess of matter producing energy - this is like dark matter on the edge of our universe being created - the mass is increasing! this makes sense to me, i hope it does to you too?
     
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    Nothing mysterious about them.
    Gravitons keep you grounded! Not waves.
    Minimally the Wave / Particle conundrum similar to light but in gravitational terms.
    Today's gravity wave searchers remind me of light wave searchers who would deny the photon.
    It's that simple.

    Graviton Drive. Imagine.

    Moi :oldman:

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    I have been thinking that the observation of particles or waves might just be dependent upon how we perceive them.
     
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    My way of understanding physics is that is is an expansion of primary school chemistry - the study of kinetic and potential energy. this is the fundamental definition of physics, that study of energy in all it's forms, yes?

    So, if we were to understand that all particles are made of energy in various forms, we would find that when they come together they have various effects on each other. it is obvious that positives are attracted to negatives, while the combination of the proton right alongside the neutrino as they are positive and negative, of similar mass, no doubt? i think it is down to the negative things attracting the real mass from around them, as mass is activated by these negative things, things that 'spin into themselves' instead of 'creating things.' so, we have a particle that is eating, and one that is feeding, yes?
     
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    The neutrino has a very small, maybe no, mass, and no charge. WTF are you talking about?
     
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    Doesn't it have spin to attract the other spinning value of the proton?
     
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    Jesus Christ you're a ****ing moron.
     
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    I think the thing they are looking for with the graviton could be the sum of four 'half spin things.'

    This could also be the gluon and the photon coming together, having the right mass and spin to affect this 'thing.'

    Or, it could be the sum of some four others.
     
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    Well, it just so happens that they are pinned together at the centre of the atom. doesn't that mean there is an attraction?
     
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    Jesus Christ you're a ****ing moron.
     
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    What a disgusting post. Someone should notify the mods.
     
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    Go ahead.
     
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    I bet YOU are a Graviton atheist.
    Are you?
    Do you believe in a Gravity particle or not.
    Please share. And don't leave out "why".

    Moi :oldman:
    Gravitons keep you grounded.

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    Wow, the tough one!

    I'm an atheist for sure, but only from the divine perspective.

    Gravitons? I don't know, which makes me an agnostic.

    Why? Because it's hypothetical and has never been seen.

    Also because it's a second-order tensor and therefore not understandable by normal human beings.
     
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    You understand the photon, si?
    How is the Graviton diff?
     
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    Well, you can see photons...
     
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    Likewise, Gravitons keep us grounded.
     
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    With the neutrino, there is some confusion with whether it has an anti particle or not. seeing as how they have not detected an anti particle with that hadron collider, with all the other 'funny stuff' that they found in there, it is logical to deduct that the neutrino is actually just a massless result of energy, where the 'core' of the atom is kept together by the rest of the atom in orbit.

    I would say the neutrino is actually just a 'condensed area' of energy, where the illusion of a particle exists. seeing as how it does not have mass, like all other particles without mass, - like the photon, for example - these are merely results of other interactions in the atom. this would mean that these other particles are like realized bolt of lightning, having no mass gives them no potential energy, meaning they are merely kinetic. they would feed off of mass 'to provide themselves spin,' so, this means that they are transition particles, yes?
     
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    I remember the grand ole days of the Neutrino back in the 70's when it had no mass.
    University of California, Irvine had a major neutrino prof. Reins I think.

    Similar to Dark Matter and Mr. Higgs boson, I suspect the Neutrino
    is just a mathematical fudge factor.

    Equations won't work. Plug in Mr. Higgs boson, or neutrino or dark matter to fix it.
    All fudge factors I do believe.

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    It seems the charge of a fermion is minus two, which could be the equation given to any fermion containing all the particles, or, at most, the deficiency will be two. that means two the more fermions there are, the less balanced the atom.

    This i say because there are three particles that have 2/3 charge [2], three that have 1/3 negative charge [-1], and three that have negative one charge [3] with the rest having no charge. the thing is, the charge does not lead to a unsettled atom, as the mass of the whole atom is so biased towards the three positive particles in their size. this means the whole atom comes out as a positive charge, leading to gas, liquids and matter, where if the negative energy had it, our universe would just be a swirling electrical storm.
     

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