Past Lives.

Discussion in 'Other Off-Topic Chat' started by Jack Napier, Mar 9, 2012.

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I think..

  1. Much like the idea of heavens, invented because it sounds better than death.

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  2. I have personal experience of it, and believe it.

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  3. Neat idea, but merely a fable of course.

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  4. Read a lot about it, no personal experience, but believe it.

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  5. Other (state what)

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  1. Jack Napier

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    Not sure how well versed you are on the matter of so called 'past lives', that is to say the groundswell of people who believe that we have all lived before, sometimes more than once, and sometimes also meeting the same people along the way, as we do in this life.

    There are likely variations on the idea, depending on culture and custom, but that's what I know of it, in short.

    Running a little poll to measure peeps thoughts on this concept..
     
  2. Jack Napier

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    Went for the first option.

    Jack
     
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    gophangover Well-Known Member

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    John the Baptist was Elijah in a past life.
    Matthew 17:10-13
     
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    bitterweed New Member Past Donor

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    or something that seems familiar..but you have no experience..

    My husband, who is not a nutcase, says he has some kind of vague memory of dancing the minuet..

    But once, while this was being discussed every which way..he came up with an interesting idea..Rather than past lives, why couldn't our DNA harbor memories..just as our skin, hair, eye color are pre ordained..and height and weight to a degree..why couldn't our genes carry in themselves family history..?

    The more I think about that, the more reasonable his idea becomes...rather than reincarnation..
     
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    One thing that would help, is if you had DNA samples from the bodies you had in your past lives. If they match identically...that would make a compelling bit of support for the concept of past lives.
     
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    DNA harbouring memories?

    Entertaining notion, but AFAIK, there is zero evidence to suggest that DNA can harbour memory, per se.

    As to past lives specifically, I think it just one of those things, much like the idea of places that you go to, upon death, a fable, a story, to offer those that once needed it (psychologically), an sense of inflated importance, and a sense of possible mortality.
     
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    Interesting.

    Not sure if they always mean they looked precisely how they do today, or if they mean something like their 'soul' is what gets reincarnated into another flesh and blood body.

    Actually, there are likely several variations of the thinking.
     
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    I believe in past lives. Its reincarnation. I believe that the second someone dies, they are immediately reborn as someone else, elsewhere in the world. The country they were born in, and the life they lead are either punishment or reward for the life they lived previously.
     
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    No evidence..but we haven't researched that idea, now have we?..DNA and gene research are relatively new fields, in the scheme of things..

    I don't believe in reincarnation..I remember when I was a kid, there was a woman named Bridey Murphy..If I recall correctly..she was supposed to have been reincarnated..I thought it was bizarre then..and the story died..Haven't heard anything since.

    But, being as I am a Christian..I do believe in a life beyond death..and I see you don't..I believe that there is a part of a person, that goes on after death. Emotions and thoughts are not tangible in the first place..how can they end? We call it our souls..I am an older woman..my body is aging..but my spirit seems to remain intact.
     
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    I voted for other being that both Heaven and Hell are states of living conditions.
    As for "past lives", if you are talking about past experiences while we are alive such as from "poverty to riches", changing professions, etc. yes I do know that it is factual. If you are referring to reincarnation, such is nothing but fanciful dreams and desires.
     
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    Based on what?

    Jack
     
  12. Jack Napier

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    Thought not.

    Shame.
     
  13. Jack Napier

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    How can they not?

    Did they exist before you were born - no.

    Will they exist after you are no longer - no.

    When your brain dies and can no longer function, your thoughts and memories die along with you, save for in the memories of those that remember you, of course.
     
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    in the bible it says we are given one life in other religions like the hindus and muslims they believe in reincarnation where people live many lives as bugs and insects and other animals
     
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    Doesn't the bible promise an everlasting life?

    Sure it does.

    An equal fairytale, anyway.
     
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    yes but that is not here so this christian belief as with many others cannot be proven with empirical evidence to be a fairytale or not

    now the other religions that believe in reincarnation on earth, those can be proven to be fairytales
     
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    If someone claims heavens or reincarnation to be factual and true, they must provide evidence, the burden of proving it lies with them.

    Always.
     
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    Prove it..

    I thought not..:)
     
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    Reincarnation, like any other religion is nothing more than a matter of what one chooses to believe in and accepts what is preached as true. There are those that choose not to believe in any religion of any kind and that is their choice as those that chose to believe in their chossen religion. They both say that they are right.
     
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    disagree the burden of proof does not neccessarily have to fall upon the claimant because they already believe it.

    if the person receiving this truth is skeptical the burden is upon them to prove it for themselves
     
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    Whether you realize it or not, from an evolutionary standpoint the belief you are stating here actually doesn't make much sense. It is more of a cultural perception based on the current era that we live in. One of the many scotomas we develop as a society the more technologically advanced we become. Comparable to our collective amnesia about the significance of natural gender roles.
     
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    The thing that makes me think there might be something to it is detailed dreams that have no context within this life. I try not to dismiss anything based upon social stigma. I have detailed dreams. Most make sense, with people I have known and situations I have been in, or at least using them as a basis. I have had outlandish dreams triggered by something I witnessed that day, or maybe several things witnessed thrown together in a baffling construct. But every now and then, on extremely rare occasions, I will have a dream where I am me, in a place as familiar as can be, yet, me as I know it is not of this body or lifetime, and the place is somewhere I have never been in this life. It feels just as normal as a regular dream, every part vivid, detailed to the extreme. Natural while I'm in it, freakish upon awakening and recalling. There could be several theoretical explanations for such a phenomenon, some more outlandish than others. Whether believing in "old souls" is outlandish or not, I can see how people have come to that conclusion.
     
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    That's like saying what a religious person bases their beliefs on. You just believe, there is no explanation.
     
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    I remember it very vividly, like it was yesterday. I was an ant garthering food for the winter when I looked up and saw a giant shoe coming down right on top of me and then everything went black. :skull:
     
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    Well then it is irrational to accept something as factual, without any evidence at all.

    You may as well say that David Icke is right, and some men are really Reptilian.
     

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