Patient removed from heart transplant list for refusing Covid-19 vaccine

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  1. Bowerbird

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    Doesn’t sit well with me either and one of the wonderful things about a UHC is equality of treatment - well as much as can - rural still misses out a bit
     
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  2. Steve N

    Steve N Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    What did I say that wasn’t true? You guys really hate facts, don’t you?
     
  3. Bowerbird

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    https://aci.health.nsw.gov.au/covid-19/critical-intelligence-unit/living-evidence-surgeryWell, everything and that is the sad part. That you do believe this. I am a “Lefty” do you believe I would pick and choose who got care based on whether they were “left or right” or on skin colour? I might prioritise to the most vulnerable if it were a situation of reduced resources but that includes taking into account multiple factors
     
  4. Steve N

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    The left, and you are part of the left big time, picks and chooses winners based on color. Boston’s hospitals are choosing to give priority to blacks over whites. Biden gave black farmers preference to white farmers. Jesus H, how many times have the left gave preferred treatment to blacks because of inequities and social justice?
     
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    How long have you been on this forum? Its all about the feels. Reading the article cuts into angry posting time.
     
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    Do they? Really? Where is your proof that this is happening or are you just a victim of what they are calling “rage farming” - making people believe that someone is picking on or discriminating against THEM.
     
  7. Steve N

    Steve N Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Are you that uninformed and clueless? Are you representative of how blind and conforming society has become just because that’s the way your leaders want you?
     
  8. Bowerbird

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    Shrugs

    I will believe it when I see it
     
  9. Steve N

    Steve N Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    When you’re uninformed you’ll never see it.
     
  10. Daniel Light

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    Fake news. Bombastic rhetoric is not a valid argument.
     
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  11. Bowerbird

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    Not uninformed simply not seeing the world through confirmation bias
     
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    I wonder if they have the same rule for those who

    are overweight
    smoke
    don't exercise
    eat fried food
    drink soda
    drink alcohol
    vote Democrat
     
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  13. Bowerbird

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    Actually the answer is probably
     
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    I am - and I agree with his statement. As a transplant recipient, you need to be in a condition that will result in the best outcome. Not being vaccinated against covid means the recipient could contract the disease and die - making it a wasted organ. I know, I know - there are those who doubt the efficacy of the vaccine - but hospitals don't - and they want to know that the organ goes to the person with the best chance of survival.
     
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    That is what we are discussing. As an organ donor, I strongly oppose using ones willingness to consume this inferior pharma product as a condition to receive my donated parts. Those who justify it using stats, I can show how on average, Republicans are healthier and happier than Democrats, so these donated parts can do more good if Reps get first dibs. If you find that to be unacceptable, good. We agree.
     
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    You're saying that if this person were vaccinated he can't catch covid and die?
     
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    Okay, so why not move Democrats down on the list since Republicans are generally healthier and happier?
     
  18. Bowerbird

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    Oh! Please do show me that
     
  19. Bowerbird

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    His chances of dying are greatly reduced
     
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    Why not take politics out of it altogether and evaluate individuals

    BTW I cannot remember the story saying what the political leaning of the patient was
     
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    You are missing the point. I can show you studies, but such criteria is unacceptable. This vaccine is a political product and should never be used to hold a donated organ over someones head.
     
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    Is it? Where in the OP article does it identify the political affiliation of this patient/. You appear to be assuming that the patient is a republican - is that because of an assumption that republicans are unvaccinated or is it the assumption that “The world is against us”
     
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    I made no such assumption. This "vaccine" is a political product. Politicians are trying to strong-arm people into consuming it every 6 months. This is excessive in my opinion. Of course, by he time my parts are available, I won't be around to complain.
     
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    The part where he says he refuses the vax?
     
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    The hospital should be sued for discrimination.
     
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