Patient removed from heart transplant list for refusing Covid-19 vaccine

It is a law that people are entitled to equal treatment under the law.

For example should this hospital be allowed to deny someone a heart because they're gay?

 

It's the worst form of extortion play KR political agenda or die.

 

So not being addicted to reoccurring phony vaccines and boosters means you're a drug addict you'll have to explain that to me.

 

The Hospital isn't refusing this idiot a heart. This idiot is making his own choice by refusing to get vaccinated and get this heart.

 

No. He's a healthy person (other than the heart thing) that could die if he gets sick. The vaccine is pretty much guaranteed to make him very sick for 24 hours after each shot. Why would he take that risk?
The hospital is taking no additional risk by giving him the transplant. If he gets covid and dies later, that's on him. If he dies by not getting the transplant he needs, it's on the hospital. Now, if he gets the vaccine, gets sick and dies, it's on the hospital and I would hope that the family would sue the crap out of the hospital.

 

LOL are you seriously suggesting that he knows more about what's good for his heart than heart transplant surgeons? Secondly, doesn't the fact that he needs a transplant give you a little bit of a clue that he's NOT healthy? His heart is so wrecked that he WILL die without the transplant - he's at death's door, in fact - so he's literally deciding that he would rather be dead than 'risk' the vaccine. Does that really make sense to you? And do you think transplant surgeons, for their part, would risk wasting this precious asset on someone who thinks they should get to pick and choose which parts of the care plan they follow, or give it to someone who'll do their part, by doing everything they can to make it a success? No they wouldn't, and they aren't.

And no, nothing will be on the hospital. There would be absolutely no grounds for a lawsuit.

 

His heart is so wrecked that he will probably die before the transplant if he gets the vaccine.

I'm in favor of all healthy people getting vaccinated. I'm not in favor of forcing people to do something that could kill them in order to save their life. If the vaccine is so safe, have him get the vaccine after the transplant.

 

Where are our grand juries when we need them?

“Elements for Murder

Elements of a law are the facts and criteria that are required to be proven for a person to be convicted of that offense. Think of it like a recipe with every ingredient and instruction needed or the final product won't turn out. If just one item (or element) is left out, then it's a failure.
There are general elements that are required of every crime that are not written in most statutes. These are:

Mens rea (evil mind): evil intent; the more evil the mind, the more intent
Actus reus (wrongful act): the act was purposeful
Concurrence: intent and act must be simultaneous
Causation: act and intent must work together to be the cause
Harm: act and intent must be the cause of actual harm

This is true of every crime. The prosecutor must prove the defendant intended to commit a crime, committed some act on purpose, committing the act caused the crime to occur, and some harm resulted.”
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There's no question he'll die without the transplant. According to his father, he's at death's door.

So, he's going to commit suicide because there's a chance the vaccine might hurt him?

What about his two boys and unborn child? Even if it was 99% likely the vaccine would kill me, I'd take it because the 1% chance of not leaving them fatherless would be better than no chance at all.

 

Irrelevant.

 

The lefties will find a much kinder and softer term.... but yes. Exactly.

Democrate authoritarianism coming to a hospital near you!

 

there are tons of vaccinations that are required for these transplants, along with other medical/health requirements, like not smoking, not drinking, not being overweight.

they want to make sure these VERY valuable and VERY rare transplant organs aren't going to be wasted.

 

so you want these very valuable and rare organs to be wasted on someone who is already putting their health in jeopordy?

 

all he has to do is get the vaccine, prior, he is not being denied, he is choosing not to get it

 

Name calling doesn't exactly make people look intelligent. If the premise behind this is that chances are better and that the organ can do more good for vaccinated patients, why not give priority to Republicans? They are healthier and happier than Democrats and the organ can do more good.

 

there is no evidence that Republicans have an average lower BMI, smoke less, drink less, have less depression, do less drugs, exercise more, than Democrats.

its a fake news fraud.

 

”Parts” are always given to individuals that show due care. An obese person drops way down the list from someone that maintains a healthy weight. Mental illness is also considered as well as home support.

Standard practice. These items are rare so it should go to individuals with the highest chance of success.

 

Can you give a source that Republicans are healthier?

As to happier — Ignorance is bliss but stupidity is euphoric.

 

The vaccine sure is a lot safer than the virus

 

First of all, BMI is not a measure of health. Those with more muscle mass are considered obese using BMI.

If I can show evidence that Republicans are healthier and happier, would that justify giving them priority for organ transplants? As an organ, tissue, marrow donor, I find that unacceptable.

https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/news/press-releases/republicans-democrats-health/

 

And I can understand using habits as a determinate. This political product incorrectly labeled as a "vaccine" is being forced on us with heavy handed tactics. First, they tried guilt "The unvaccinated don't care if they kill grandma" Then they tried threatening our livelihood, now placing a lower value on the lives of those not consuming this ineffective pharma product. As an organ/tissue/marrow donor, I strongly object to using my parts for political purposes.

 

Tough
As a donor I support them going to the best candidates

 

Nothing makes people look more intelligent than resorting to cheap shots and name calling.

https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/news/press-releases/republicans-democrats-health/

 

So Democrats should be last on the list?

 

Their not placing a "lower value on lives". They are making the best use of the very limited supply of organs they have

The vaccines are proven to drastically reduce the severity, and reduce the risk of death from Covid in not only healthy people, but also on those who are immune compromised. Combine that with the risk of getting covid, and what these doctors are doing is exactly what they should, giving those organs the best chance to really help someone. But lets be very clear here, this is one of MANY risk factors taken into consideration for transplant patients. Claiming they wont give organs to people that wont get vaccinated because they place a lower value on that life is ridiculous, because its actually the exact opposite.