Paul Ryan Rallies Conservatives Against Senate Shutdown, Debt Ceiling Deal

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    Paul Ryan Rallies Conservatives Against Senate Shutdown, Debt Ceiling Deal

    The Huffington Post | By Alana Horowitz | 10/13/2013 1:27 pm EDT
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    “As the shutdown drags on and the deadline to raise the debt ceiling approaches, some House Republicans are beginning to express a willingness to go along with a bipartisan Senate plan.

    Paul Ryan isn't one of them. The Wisconsin congressman is rallying conservatives against a Senate plan to fund the government and raise the debt ceiling, the Washington Post reported on Saturday.

    The plan, proposed by Sen. Susan Collins (R-Maine), would fund the government through March and raise the debt ceiling through January. Senate Democrats rejected the proposal on Saturday because it locks in sequestration cuts for too long.

    Sources told the Post that, in a private meeting with House Republicans, Ryan said that by kicking the can down the road, the GOP would lose “leverage" in their fight against Obamacare.

    Ryan's main concern appears to be delaying the health care law's individual mandate, but ThinkProgress points out that Ryan also emphasized the need to give employers the ability to deny birth control coverage based on moral or religious reasons.

    According to the Post, some Republicans present for Ryan's speech "grew visibly excited about the prospect of opposing" plans like Collins'.

    With negotiations between the White House and House Republicans dead after the House's latest offer was rejected on Saturday, attention has turned to the Senate. Talks continued on Sunday between Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) and Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.), but GOP-proposed budget cuts appear to be a major deal-breaker for Democrats.”

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    IMO: As each tpartyier steps up to object to a compromise in their individual projects of troublemaking wishlists in return for merely doing their jobs to sign off on the debt ceiling raise (a commonplace procedure under a republican president) they still choose to use it as a hostage – taking exercise to get radical agendas passed along with the debt ceiling raise – otherwise they refuse to sign off on the debt ceiling!!

    Under no circumstance does a dedicated, hardworking, and honest legislator resort to such treasonous tactics to get their agendas into law, even to shutting down the entire government! This is not a Democracy where majority rules.

    Here we have a minority of radical creeps that think they can bluster, rant, and coerce other legislators thru fear of retaliation at the polls to get their way. It is a breach of our Constitution to deliberately shut down the government in a plot to get an agenda into law.

    As it now commonplace to rule the government in three month increments as if they were sublime gifts bestowed upon the land, the fanatical House republicans apparently cannot think beyond every 3rd month in their schemes of complete obstruction of a sitting president, even to the extreme shutting the government down, that again only hurts the poor, elderly and children of this country.

    It should be obvious to every American that the form of government we are witnessing today is not a Democracy, but a third-world national dictatorship where power is displayed in-your-face by a radical minority.

    It is amazing that one congressman named Paul Ryan, who ran as VP and seconds away from a possible presidency would ever be a spokesman for a sleazy cult that is in favor of keeping the government shut-down in place until they get their demands met.
     
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    Oh great more huffpo nonsense.
     
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    Some of you here have your head buried in the sand. Good for Ryan.....this is so out of control. :wall:

    The sad byproduct of this debt mess is that Washington won’t lift the debt ceiling to fund our military or secure our border, but they sure as hell will lift it for more massive unconstitutional government spending. In fact, it won't surprise me if John Boner's last act as Speaker of the House might be a two year budget bill to lock in a future Congress and President. This idiot has worked so hard to expand government and fund every stinkin penny of Obama's big government agenda, I'll bet he'll do his best to screw our future leaders as well. And most importantly, screw the American people. :steamed:
     
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