PBS Official: Repeal The Natural Born Citizen Clause To Avoid Birther Controversy

So what does this tell you? It seems that liberals are willing to alter the constitution in order to keep Obama in case he was actually born out of this country or that he is found ineligible which in case he already is. Jon Meacham of PBS is wrong for wanting this to happen. He is basically saying 'to hell with what the founders wanted' when they changed the Presidential clause from citizen to natural born citizen. If you notice he doesn't even call it the natural born citizen clause but instead 'the native born clause'. Native born is what Obama is described as on his website Fight The Smears instead of Natural born. They are not the same. Natural born citizen is what Article 2 Section 1 calls for, not Native born. Obama was clever in his words describing himself on his website and the voters never caught he was stating he wasn't a natural born citizen. Meacham references Donald Trump several times in his statement so it really means Trump has struck a serious nerve that has democrats worried and that it would be best to do away with the founders presidential amendment. Desperation is setting in and this proves it.

Watch the video of Meacham:
http://www.pbs.org/wnet/need-to-kno...ive-born-americans-to-run-for-president/8679/

 

Of course not.. How stupid.. The law is fine as it stands..

Your problem is you are trying to go back to 1866.. instead of Title 8 of the US Code.

 

Regardless of anyone's position on the President Obama's birth status, we should never consider changing the constitution that has served us well all these years.

 

It tells me that this is his opinion. I don't agree with it. I understand that the concept has been floating around for year, and the speaker is correct, that it most recently came up by a proposal from Orin Hatch.

The opinion I'd really like to see is the legal opinion that Ted Olsen gave to McCain, when his qualifications were called into question.

 

Title 8 doesn''t even mention natural born citizen. It has absolutely nothing to do with Article 2 Section 1. If it did they would have amended it to it. Article 2 Section 1 in calling for a natural born citizen to be president stands alone and John Binghams definition of what a natural born citizen is still stands.


“Every human being born within the jurisdiction of the United States of parents not owing allegiance to any foreign sovereignty is, in the language of your Constitution itself, a natural born citizen.”

 

LOLOL.. Meacham mocks both Trump and Bachman.

 

"Owing allegiance" is subjective...

You would OWE allegiance to another country if you were a foreign diplomat living in the US and enjoying diplomatic immunity.

 

That's the problem. There is no "law" or statute. Just a mandate without teeth. Except for AZ now.

 

Wow, rather than demand that Obama just release the lfbc, they want to change the constitution to suit them. It speaks volumes. They know he's hiding something.

 

How many times have I said the leftist losers hate America, its constitution, its laws, its traditions, its principles, its values, its morals, and they de-value being American as seperate and distinct from every other political system? How much more do you need to know before you know that I am right? Leftists suck!!!

 

[SARCASM]hey do that then we can elect George Soros for some serious socialism[/SARCASM]

 

Prediction; this will finish as yet another Mario 'Crash n' Burn' Apuzzo thread

 

Article 2 section 1 is all that natters. Its the constitution. Not a leftist loser play thing to suit their present leftist loser aims.

 

The Birthers are confused.. There are only TWO kinds of citizenship...

Natural Born and Naturalized..

When you read the 14th Amendment and Title 8 of the US Code its very clear... unless you can be pursuaded by the birthers that there is some secret kind of THIRD citizenship status.

The challenge to Obama's citizenship is as stupid as the challenge to McCain's citizenship or the challenge to Bobby Jindals citizenship.

This political BS..

Thousands of natural born US citizens are born overseas EVERY day.

 

You think that Chairman Obama "owes alligence" to this great land. He hates America, as do his leftist loser pals (butt buddies).

 

Exactly right!!!!! Obama is a loser. Knew it from the very moment I first saw his incompetent ass in Iowa.

 

You have said that before. It was as use in those instances as it is in this one. Just saying. You got nothing.

 

And hisloserness King Hussein is neither.

 

It doesn't matter, scumbama doesn't have a long form so it will never be released.

 

Except that definition, although one form of natural birth citizenship, is not exclusive, as the naturalization act of 1790, for instance, shows.

 

Which is fine. However, if Obama were born in Kenya, he was not "natural born", as his mother was short on age in order to bestow citizenship.

I think his being born in Kenya unlikely, but not out of the realm. I do think it far more likely he had his citizenship changed as he grew, possibly by his mother, gamed the system as a student, and now wants the lid shut on all of that.

There is a serious issue with his SSN as well, which unfortunately supports Obama being a citizen changeling.

 

Wow, what a horrible article.

"Little is known of the story of the native-born clause. As reconstructed by Akhil Reed Amar of Yale, the provision is rooted in the framers’ fears not of immigrants, who were allowed to hold any other federal office, but in anxieties about imported noblemen."

According to Amar, “In 1787, the more plausible scenario was that a foreign earl or duke would cross the Atlantic with immense wealth and a vast retinue and use his European riches to buy friends and power on a scale that virtually no American could match.” Amar reports that “several months before the constitution was drafted … Confederation Congress President Nathaniel Gorham, had apparently written to Prince Henry of Prussia, a brother of Frederick the Great, to inquire whether the prince might consider coming to the new world to serve as a constitutional monarch.” I don’t know about you, but more than two centuries on I’m willing the roll the dice on a Prussian takeover.

I don't see how it is much different today. This would leave open the opportunity for a foreign oil tycoon, or anyone else with enough power and influence to come over to America and do the same exact thing which was feared in the 18th century.

 

I am beginning to believe that is true.

 

How predictable!

the Obama haters describe this as a liberal plot, even though Conservatives have floated this idea around since Kissinger was Secretary of State.

Here is my perspective- if the American people want such an Amendment, and it passes, so be it. I personally don't think there is any reason for such an Amendment- but that is what the Amendment process is for.

Tellingly, Apuzzo wants to change the definition of Natural Born citizen without a Constitutional Amendment- he wants to change it by judicial fiat.

 

Why does it have to be about hate? Its not! Obama is an imbecile! Obama is an incompetent! Obama is the one who hates! He hates America! He hates you! He panders to you because you are a useful idiot to vote for his worthless ass!