PBS Official: Repeal The Natural Born Citizen Clause To Avoid Birther Controversy

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  1. SFJEFF

    SFJEFF New Member

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    Oh that hurts!

    I guess it must be annoying that everyone but you and your fellow travellers believes in the Constitution. Those pesky voters! That annoying Constitution...if only people would just do what you say, then you wouldn't have to put up with that black man as President.
     
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    http://www.usconstitution.net/consttop_citi.html

    Natural-born citizen

    Who is a natural-born citizen? Who, in other words, is a citizen at birth, such that that person can be a President someday?

    The 14th Amendment defines citizenship this way: "All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside." But even this does not get specific enough. As usual, the Constitution provides the framework for the law, but it is the law that fills in the gaps. The Constitution authorizes the Congress to do create clarifying legislation in Section 5 of the 14th Amendment; the Constitution, in Article 1, Section 8, Clause 4, also allows the Congress to create law regarding naturalization, which includes citizenship.

    Currently, Title 8 of the U.S. Code fills in the gaps left by the Constitution. Section 1401 defines the following as people who are "citizens of the United States at birth:"

    * Anyone born inside the United States *
    * Any Indian or Eskimo born in the United States, provided being a citizen of the U.S. does not impair the person's status as a citizen of the tribe
    * Any one born outside the United States, both of whose parents are citizens of the U.S., as long as one parent has lived in the U.S.
    * Any one born outside the United States, if one parent is a citizen and lived in the U.S. for at least one year and the other parent is a U.S. national
    * Any one born in a U.S. possession, if one parent is a citizen and lived in the U.S. for at least one year
    * Any one found in the U.S. under the age of five, whose parentage cannot be determined, as long as proof of non-citizenship is not provided by age 21
    * Any one born outside the United States, if one parent is an alien and as long as the other parent is a citizen of the U.S. who lived in the U.S. for at least five years (with military and diplomatic service included in this time)
    * A final, historical condition: a person born before 5/24/1934 of an alien father and a U.S. citizen mother who has lived in the U.S.

    * There is an exception in the law — the person must be "subject to the jurisdiction" of the United States. This would exempt the child of a diplomat, for example, from this provision
     
  3. washingtonamerica.com

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    APUZZO LIVES ! sherrif joe just started getting death threats for asking about the president's birth certificate. that seems so unpatriotic sfjeff.
     
  4. Serfin' USA

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    I support repealing that clause.

    It's (*)(*)(*)(*)ing nativist and retarded. Maybe it made sense to have it back when we started, but it doesn't make sense now.
     
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    Well if Sheriff Joe is getting any death threats- then I support full prosecution of anyone making such threats, for any reason. I don't think it is so much unpatriotic, as criminal to make death threats.

    Of course, if Sheriff investigated the death threats, then he might actually find a crime to investigate.
     

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