Pedestrians should always keep left to maintain order on the streets

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  1. Bic_Cherry

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    Pedestrians should always keep left to maintain order on the streets
    (Cars drive on the left side of the road in Singapore BTW)


    (Just like when using the SMRT escalators), so that there can be safe and orderly use of public paths and PMDs users can safely overtake pedestrians en route instead of causing a mini traffic jam/ miscommunication accidents because pedestrians and PMD (Personal mobility devices) users do not know which side to take (like deer in headlights) whenever passing each other by.

    SMRT escalators:
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    Many more will be using PMD like bicycles and e-scooters and even e-wheelchairs for transport/ work like food/parcel delivery services, elderly persons with amputations/ weak knees also need space so that their e-wheelchairs can pass/ overtake. It is important for pedestrians to be considerate and keep to the left at all times and not walk in a zig zag fashion or be engrossed with handphone texting or listen to loud music in earphones whilst walking.

    Singaporeans need to learn to care and share more with each other and not adopt the entitlement mentality wherever they go.

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    Grange Road crossing at Orchard Road, towards 313 Somerset:
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    Now enhanced with sign board:
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    Outram MRT, (signs n floor markings insufficient, need temporary barriers as well):[​IMG]

    Buona Vista MRT interchange, permanent barriers installed :
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    Bishan MRT:
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    First written December 2017, this is an improved version. This one is retrievable at https://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/...tain-order-streets-5953640.html#post118080201
     
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    That's nuts! In the U.S. we drive on the right side. We're supposed to keep right on 4-lane roads and on freeways to let passing cars pass on the left. Cars are not supposed to pass on the right if some dodo remains in the left lane. The dodo should move over.

    When I went to sub school in New London, CT the outside stairs from one level to another instructed us to stay to the left. Higher rank enlisted guys told us it was to teach us to just do as we're told without objecting or questioning because everyone was dumbfounded that they were supposed to keep left.

    So I don't understand all the above. Changing rules causes confusion and problems.
     
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    Sorry to have confused you. I did state the cavete at the beginning that the post referred to countries where people drove on the left (left hand drive). All the information stated will be the opposite for right hand drive countries.

    Thanks for asking.
     
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    Well that clarifies it but I looked for any indication you were referring to other countries and just found on mention of Singapore. All the images wit printed words were English. I suppose that could have been Britain but I couldn't find any indication it wasn't the US that was the subject.
     
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    :lol:
    I have been to Singapore. The government has always been a stickler for rules anyway. No chewing gum - no long beards on men - women's skirts "just right" length - nothing allowed that looks like "hippy" style. I think trousers on women were once banned too.
     
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    English is the official language in Singapore.
     
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    I gave up reading minds.
     
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    no worries, being part of the 'collective' requires just one 'mind', shared by all...
     
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    You didn't have to. He mentioned Singapore in the OP.
     
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    I don't, I just walk where I want and stand where I want... it's more fun window shopping... besides I don't live in a very crowded place so doubt it's a problem. You only need strict rules in very crowded environments
     
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    -as I also mentioned. I supported and defended my position on that. All you can do now is accuse falsely.
     
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    I think always is pushing it. Most of your examples appear to be from underground stations or busy urban crossing points (ignoring the one that is for cyclists rather than pedestrians). Anywhere these is likely to be high volumes of foot traffic at specific times this kind of thing makes perfect sense but much of the time and in most other places it isn’t necessary. It also needs to be marked and signposted rather than a presumed rule since a simple “keep left” isn’t always going to work, say where corridors merge or cross.

    We also shouldn’t assume this is always more efficient. I’m aware of research on the London Underground, where “keep right” is the rule on escalators (ironically, even though we drive on the left) which suggested encouraging people to stand on both sides actually increased the number of people who got through. There are all sorts of questions, caveats and conditions which is another reason why pathing designed for each special area strikes me as more suitable than trying to apply a generic rule everywhere.
     
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    No, I think the PCN poster of man carrying a keep left sign applies to all, not just cyclist.

    In any case, a general rule is important just like a general language so that all people can live harmoniously together.

    Imagine if motor vehicle drivers didn't all follow the same rules (some thought red light means fo and vice versa for green, there would be chaos on the road).

    There are more and more cyclist, e-scooters traversing our streets, thus the need for laws and public spaces to evolve accordingly to accommodate many forms of traffic.

    Otherwise, if cyclist have to weave in and out between pedestrians like slalom skiers, this would endanger their own and pedestrians lives:

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