Peer-Reviewed Journal Reports Hydroxychloroquine Can Reduce Mortality Rates In COVID-19 Patients

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  1. zalekbloom

    zalekbloom Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I think you don't understand a science. When a pathological liar without any understanding of medicine announce that hydroxychloroquine, injection of disinfectants and UV light are proper medicine for a "Democrats hoax virus", you cannot blame people who call the pathological liar an idiot, even if sometimes he is right. And this pathological liar was criticized not only by Democrats, but medical establishment too.
    Democrats had no power to prevent use of hydroxychloroquine, it was medical doctors who published this report.
    Here is another opinion:
    https://www.newsweek.com/fact-check...ne-recommend-hydroxychloroquine-covid-1565459

    https://www.fda.gov/drugs/drug-safe...oroquine-covid-19-outside-hospital-setting-or

    https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanrhe/article/PIIS2665-9913(20)30390-8/fulltext
     
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    Who did the "peer" revive -Trump, Jared, Ivanka, Giuliani, and Lindsey Graham, and Majorie Greene!
     
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    PARTIZAN1 Well-Known Member

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    Get serious neither the Trumpocity nor Biden developed the vaccine... Big Foot did.
     
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    that would not be enough to explain it, as smokers tend to huddle together and smoke in designated areas, unmasked at that - they account for way less covid patients hospitalized, something is helping their lungs cope

    it's something science should look into, even if they don't like saying anything smoking is good

    there could be new things to learn from these smokers, things that could make nonsmokers lives better

    science should never be ignored, even if we don't like what it is saying, especially when thousands of lives are on the line

    if any Drugs had results even half of that of smoking, it would be considered a breakthrough, so if they could take what they learn and put it in an inhaler or a pill, that would be very beneficial
     
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    Trump could have taken credit for a distribution plan, but he did not bother to think one was needed I guess
     
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    Sure, if one is interested in yellow journalism.
     
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    Junk study. It was a retrospective analysis. In addition, they simply looked at if the patients were prescribed HCQ in an outpatient setting, not if they actually took the drug. Do you think everyone who is prescribed drugs actually fills and takes their medications especially if they are only mildly symptomatic? In other words, the 97 people who were prescribed HCQ could have not actually taken it. Also, the hospitalization rate was limited to hospitals within that network. Given then small sample size of the HCQ arm, a few people being seeking care outside the network could have lead to a different conclusion.
     
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    It’s a BS report.

    The “report” they quote says “antimalarials” can be used early in the course of treatment. Then they show when HCQ was approved for use as a antimalarial, but thats is not in the actual report, they are just showing that it is an antimalarial. Their literally playing a six degrees of Kevin Bacon to make something true that is not.

    HQC has been very clearly shown to have to many risks to be used as a treatment for Covid because covid severely compromises the immune system.

    The Republican Party is now know as the X-Files Party.
     
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    The Piece Of Stuff left distribution to the states just as he screwed the states with having to fight among themselves over PPE and fight the Feds. Stuff does as Stuff does.
     
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    But they are only a broadcast media so you have to wear your tin foil hat for your TV to receive it
     
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    Lol...it makes me think he’s a teenager with a girlie magazine.
     
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    She's a model, apparently...

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    It probably was a placebo. Indian origin, so could have been anything.
     
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    Your study was only published recently. It was conducted on data from last Spring and submitted in August.
     
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    Really?
     
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    And a week later they said there may be sustained human to human transmission. In their first tweet, they stated the preliminary studies showed no direct evidence of human to human transmission and they were relying on studies from China. China lied to everyone. Should we blame WHO for China lying? Trump got played by China also in the phone call, but I don't see the same dismay and criticism directed towards him. In addition, preliminary means only the first stages of research. which means subsequent studies may reveal a different conclusion.

    https://twitter.com/WHOWPRO/status/1219478547644813312

    Taiwan suspected there was human to human transmission, but again there was no clear evidence. Did the WHO make mistakes? Yes. Did China? Of course. But what would their response have changed with regards to the US? Even today, we still have many people who think it's a fake disease and cannot be convinced otherwise.
     
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    Ok but second hospitalizations of people barely symptomatic is not really the target we were shooting at. I personally am skeptical of a lot of things, including the alleged effectiveness of the vaccines since the studies thus far with these 95% rates have not controlled for all the other things like social distancing etc. Give 100K people the vaccine and then load them up with COVID and tell me what the numbers are if you want me to believe how effective it is.
     
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    It’s used to this very day.

    Only idiot dem politicians believe it doesn’t work. There is a reason its used even this very second in hospitals around the globe.

    Attacking it was simply a way to attack Trump. And no doubt even that cost lives.

    Has there been any dem actions that didnt cost lives?

    Attacking an effective medicine, putting elderly with infected. Smh. Dems should be ashamed.
     
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    NEITHER of those links supports the BOGUS allegations in the OP.

    The original study NEVER even mentions the term mortality and there is NOTHING in the FINDINGS of either link that mentions any REDUCTION in mortality rates.

    IOW's the OP is just CLICKBAIT bovine excrement for the GULLIBLE.

    Sad!
     
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    Great job CONTRADICTING yourself again.

    If the virus is only a "phantom" then YOUR handwaving Woowooism would be an effective treatment against it.

    Instead MILLIONS have DIED, including HUNDREDS of THOUSANDS, here in America.

    The LETHALITY of your "phantom virus" is an established FACT.

    Try dealing with REALITY instead of disingenuous CONSPIRACIES for a change.
     
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    Tobacco smoke contains a great many carcinogenic toxins so I would not be in the least bit surprised if they had some degree of prophylactic protection against an airborne virus.

    However the long term RISKS of those carcinogenic toxins which INCLUDE shorter life spans seems like a self defeating way to avoid catching the virus.

    A bunch of smokers huddled together without masks does not sound like a healthy way to ward off the virus. How many of them have smoker's cough and do they cover their mouths when they do cough?
     
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    Happy to help you. Here are links you asked for:
    Suggesting UV light and disinfectants to treat the Coronavirus


    How Trump went from 'hoax' to 'pandemic'


    You are welcome.
     
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    First video. I think he was getting bored. Having to work hard every day, be informed, answer difficult questions - so he chucked a spanner in the works to give the excuse to shut the press conferences down.

    Such an ******
     
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    not so sure if that applies to moderate smokes, definitely applies to excessive smoking, a moderate smoker still holds the title of longer living human

    it's like the sun, moderate amounts are good for you, excessive amounts are cancer causing

    but that said, regardless, we need to do more research to find out why, maybe there is something science could put in an inhaler or a pill that could help protect us from covid

    I do not expect science will though, as most don't want to know the truth

    you're right, it doesn't sound healthy, yet the fact is, they are way less hospitalized then non-smokers, it doesn't make sense, thus it should be researched - maybe the smokers cough clears the lungs, their lungs are just better at clearing themselves out... who know
     
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    I can tell you this much, back when I smoked it seemed like I did not get as sick with a cold or the flu as I do now.
    It might all be in my mind or because I'm getting older but it sure seems to be the case.
    I quit smoking 16 years ago and it remains one of the best things I've ever done but it does feel like a cold kicks my behind when it never used to!
     
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