Pelosi says the country must move toward vote by mail

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  1. Jiminy

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    Which based upon nothing. The train wreck analogy is a better description of the Narcissistic Sociopath Donnie.
     
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    14th amendment
     
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    No, but when an election is held they can place requirements on it to ensure our military personnel can vote from overseas or our citizens can vote from home. They can also require a certain number of polling locations be accessible and refuse to allow states to enact changes in violation of congressional mandate.
     
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    Cancel the 2020 Presidential Elections for Safety purposes and have another one in 2024 when it's completely safe to do so. In the meantime, keep President Trump in office until then, because his Leadership seeing the United States through these Dark times is what's best for us. If the Liberals were to somehow sneak Joe Biden into the White House in November, because they allowed MILLIONS of Illegals to vote by Mail, our Country would be in an even worse state of Infection, because of all the Gifts (Illegals carrying Disease) he'd allow to come here unfettered. I liked it when there were virtually no more cases of Measles in the United States, but Illegals coming from countries where they had not been vaccinated for that Disease changed that and we routinely have outbreaks again.
     
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    Ahhhh. The old playground retort, "IS NOT!"
     
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    There's one simple, irrefutable way to get Trump to MANDATE all states allow mail in voting this November...

    Have Obama come out against it....
     
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    When did they have this information, and how do you know?
     
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    Seth, we've seen this movie before with republicans claiming x-number of voters cast votes in multiple states because there was more than one person named "Maria Hernandez" or "Juan Vasquez". AND those voters were wiped off the roles ... -ILLEGALLY.

    The six cases of deceased voters and two voters voting twice deserve investigation but come on; really? You think 8 or even 54 votes are going to make any difference? I said and you quoted "NOBODY has found any significant fraud in any study." Eight votes are not significant and neither is 54.


    huh? I'm an American citizen. I don't find any reference to "American" or "citizen" in the Statesman article. But Republican Richardson WAS quoted in the article. It says "Richardson said in a video statement accompanying the news release. 'We're working hard to ensure ongoing integrity in Oregon's voting system.' " Notice the word "ongoing". It means "currently taking place; in progress". IOW Richardson said our voting system of mail-in ballots has "integrity".

    Look into Oregon voter registration. You need a driver's license or other ID, and you application is checked to make sure it is legitimate.

    Check into that. To really know you would have to interview elections folks to check registrations, or find the laws they follow in doing their job, and I don't have time to do it for you.

    Since you don't know how voter registrations from mail-in applications are checked, you're speculating, and you're accusing and vilifying and raising hysteria on the basis of your "best guess".

    Oh come on. Richardson said our system has integrity. I have no problem with cleaning it up. I moved here 40 years ago from Massachusetts. My voter registration there is probably still good. That's true of millions of people but they don't vote in both states, but yes, it should be cleaned up and that doesn't take voter IDs.

    My parents died 25 years ago and I'll bet their voter registrations are still on file. That's true of millions also, but the fraud is so rare as to be insignificant, and why? ... because people know votes are watched and the penalties are high.

    Signatures on votes are checked against records. Registrations are checked. And republicans are checking constantly in the hope of finding a substantial reason to demand voter IDs that they want so they can reduce the number of people who can vote. That is known and that is their history with a variety of tricks they've used and tried to use.

    Listen Seth, I'll start taking your concerns seriously and will join with you in demanding action to protect the vote when you start objecting to gerrymandering by republicans and to the many tricks they've installed to steal the vote. A study that you haven't posted with all your upset and concern and hysteria, found that with all the election fraud republicans have put in place and carry out in every election, if there were an equal number of votes on both sides, democrat and republican, in a presidential election, the republican candidate would have a 65% chance of winning anyway. Start screaming about that and I'll start taking you seriously. Deal?
     
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    How many acts of voter fraud must be uncovered to justify a nationwide approach to securing all elections, local and national, to ensure only living citizens of the united states are voting, and only within the states in which they were born?

    Give an exact number, or simply cease claiming the problem is not in need of address.
     
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    Talk to your pal @Bluesguy.... No such possibility in his book...

    Every state for themselves....
     
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    The Trump administration tried to gather the states together to discuss and come up with suggestions and what works and what doesn't and the left/Dems/MSM set their hair on fire. And it's the Constitution not me.
     
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    I already showed you were ONE VOTE would have determined which party controlled the Virginia statehouse. Stop with the canard "Oh it takes LOTS of votes to affect an elections" there are thousands of small local elections in this country and lots of them can be quite close. And as I noted in 2000, who would become President was decided on 236 votes in Florida.
     
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    The only requirement they place on it is equal access based on race and gender under the VRA. The federal government PARTICIPATES in that overseas voting and facilitates it so they have standard procedures for that stop trying to inflate that into the can tell a state how to conduct it's elections in the state.
     
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    And if they can make one requirement they can make others.
     
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    False, there's that thing called the Constitution.
     
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    So they can pass changes like the VRA, Title VII and UOCAVA which are all about who can vote and how they can vote but the line is drawn at voting remotely or through absentee ballots... ok...
     
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    The VRA has to do with Civil Rights and equal protection and due process not the manner in which elections are held and have repeated refuted your UOCAVA claim.
     
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    States closing polling locations, making the wait time exorbitant, or forcing citizens to vote in the face of a global pandemic also have to deal with civil rights, equal protections and due process.
     
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    That, in general, is far from the truth. Five to seven years ago many states wanted to verify what looked like tens of thousands of duplicate registrations in each state by coordinating and checking the rolls between states. The Obama administration prohibited the states from doing that. Why, is anybody's guess, but it ain't rocket science.
     
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    That is just blowing smoke through your mirrors. Trump does not try to be subtle about anything as you guys constantly lambast him for that.
     
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    The 14th amendment says nothing about holding elections.
     
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    World's Laughingstock Donnie is just the country's worst president according to conservatives Rick Wilson and Max Boots.
     
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    It makes it easier to vote. If more people vote, the Republicans lose
     
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    It makes it easier for Democrats to cheat - which is why Pelosi wants it, and why you support it.
     

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