Pence chief of staff fires back at Sondland: That conversation never happened...

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  1. notme

    notme Well-Known Member

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    I dunno why your opinion matters.
     
  2. Tim15856

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    Why does yours then? Don't you know that everything in this forum doesn't matter? Do you think one person is going to change their mind and make a difference? Do you think one person will change their vote because they saw the light from a multitude of facts? Nah, this is all a game, a sport, a challenge to defeat the talking points of the other side.
     
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  3. notme

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    I'm only pointing at the evidence of the transcript and that it goes hand in hand with what, as far as I know, all them Americans say under oath. That's not my opinion. And what do you got? Your opinion, and the opinion from Ukraine. What's next.... you trust Putin more than the CIA?
     
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    What the hell does Putin and the CIA have to do with the transcript? You don't think the opinion of the two people on the phone call matters? Good grief. How about you show me in the transcript where Trump mentions aid? How can you threaten to withhold aid if you never even mention it?
     
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  5. Nemesis

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    Perhaps Mike "I love Jesus!" Pence and his staffers should testify under oath. Like Sondland did.
     
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    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yep, ignore the testimony for media.
     
  7. AmericanNationalist

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    That's what happens when you're allowed to have A: A closed door disposition and B: Allowed to lie your mouth off because the sitting chairman will NEVER hold you in contempt. No, see, you're the good guy to defeat Trump and do our dirty work for us, who cares if you fib a little along the way.

    His testimony is totally unreliable, when Margret Brennan asked the question I would've gladly answered "Yes, he's unreliable. Is that a trick question."
     
  8. Nemesis

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    When you have nothing--no sources, no facts, no logic, no reasoning, no legal basis---deny deny deny.
     
  9. Nemesis

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    You mean they're not under oath? The GOP wasn't present?

    Silly argument.
     
  10. AmericanNationalist

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    If any member has the same entitlement to ask the AG to open up a referral for contempt for Congress, they should. And I would have. Feel better?

    A liar has no room to being a witness in testimony. One at that so openly and repeatedly that a national syndicalist who's no fan of Trump(Brennan) pointed it out. As I said, I would've answered her like this "Yeah, trick question?"
     
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    Do bear in mind that you would have us believe the guy who said something under oath and could go away to prison for a long, long time if caught in a lie, had in fact lied based on the word of someone who wasn't under oath. Not only that but one talked about what he himself did and the other talked about someones else's actions.
     
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    Because Adam Schiff is TOTALLY going to implicate his OWN witness? We'd been telling you what a crap show this is from the start. Now if Ratcliff were Chairman, I haven't the slightest doubt that there would've been a referral to the AG.
     
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    Or just stick to the facts like I did.
     
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    Perjury by high government officials is no longer prosecuted in this country. Neither is taking the country to war under false pretenses.
     
  15. Nemesis

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    --and what bullshit conspiracy fairytale would they want fake investigated this time?
     
  16. Nemesis

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    *LOFL*

    You haven't ever posted anything longer than one sentence, and there are never any "facts" in the posts.

    Deny deny deny.
     
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    People lie under oath all the time.

    Bill Clinton.
    Clapper.
    Brennan.
    Manafort.
    Roger Stone.

    You were saying?
     
  18. Nemesis

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    Some liars avoid being placed under oath.
     
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    You can't be serious, you just commented on the members of Congress holding Sondland in contempt. I told you outright that I do hold him in contempt, there's evidence(I mean, contradicting statements alone) that he's lied under oath numerous times and frankly at this point is thumbing his nose at the entire procedure.

    I thought you wanted convincing witnesses, not a witness who tried to "throw each side a bone".
     
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    MolonLabe2009 Banned

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    Who?
     
  21. notme

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    Not when one is part of a corrupt government and the other is the culprit causing the corruption.
    Both aint even under oath.

    I already sourced that Ukraine knew that Trump was withholding the aid, when Trump was asking for favors.
     
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    Well you claimed that Ukraine did not know. You refused to prove it.
    And I debunked you claim. :)
     
  23. Nemesis

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    What's the "evidence"? You trumpers seem to have a very flexible definition----
     
  24. StillBlue

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    And let's take a look see at your list.
    Clinton- impeached for lying to Congress about consensual, adult sex.
    Clapper - unproven
    Brennan- unproven
    Manafort - in jail
    Stone - in jail

    Your point?
     
  25. Nemesis

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    Make a guess.
     

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