Pensioner died because Muslim nurse was praying'

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  1. Dutch

    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Uhm... It appears, you evade the question while attacking the poster... whatever... I've not'n more to 'spain to you, youngster, but I do appreciate the bump :love:
     
  2. Dutch

    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Thank you for yet another bump. Any advice on improving my "extremely poor" English? :love:
     
  3. Makedde

    Makedde New Member Past Donor

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    This case has nothing to do with the nurse praying. Staff should have called an ambulance the moment they found her on the floor. They didn't.

    The prying nurse did not kill her, nor did he have anything to do with her death.
     
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    Question 1
    Muslims I know in the UK pray on their unpaid break time.

    Question 2
    Are you comparing an agency nurse to a prophet?
     
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    Then you'd have to imprison all the christian medical workers whose patients suffer because they're off someplace fornicating.
     
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    The headline is a lie on it's face. The supposed cause of death is brain haemorrhage and pneumonia, more than a week after the incident. The brain bleed could have been the cause, or the result of the fall. Ten minutes either way would make no difference. The examination could obviously have been more thorough, but that is a clinical matter not a religious one.
    Having been left by herself in the lounge, instead of being put to bed as instructed by the RN, the lady could have fallen again and caused the injury then, before she was "found to be unresponsive".
     
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    Roadvirus Well-Known Member

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    I smell a lawsuit a'comin. Of course, in the UK, that could be construed as racist since the person you're suing is Muslim.
     
  8. Dutch

    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Thanks for yet another bump.
     
  9. Dutch

    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I disagree, it has everything to do with praying nurse. Whatever policies they have in that nursing home, it prevented junior stuff from acting until senior nurse made a decision. So they followed guidelines, and waited for the senior nurse to dispense with his religious obligations. While poor women suffered.
     
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    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Thank you for the bump.
     
  11. Dutch

    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Happy to educate you, and thank you for another bump:

    To bump a thread on an Internet forum is to post a reply to it purely in order to raise the thread's profile. This will typically return it to the top of the list of active threads. It has been suggested that "bump" is an acronym of "bring up my post",[1] however this is almost certainly a backronym and the usage is entirely consistent with the verb "bump" which means "to knock to a new position".[2] It can also be used in personal messages (PMs) or instant messages (IMs) on the Web, to return an older message to the top of the list.
     
  12. Marlowe

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    Every worker (even in in hospitals - nursing homes ) are entitled to PAID - lunch breaks/REST PERIODS. Have you ever done a days works without being paid for a full hour (or two's) lunch breaks ?

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  13. Dutch

    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    An hour or two paid lunch break? Never... is that what you get nowadays in UK? :love:
     
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    That's falsehood / a lie a gross distortion of the news report which reads :

    ":Mrs Shaw, ( junior staff ) who broke down and wept during her evidence, said she would have called an ambulance immediately after the fall.
    She said that as a carer she did not realise she could and since this incident she had discovered staff could override a nurse’s decision.


    (The Nurse was NOT legally represented and NOT present at the inquest ):



    Mr Bhutto failed to appear at the inquest in Sheffield and a summons had to be issued for him to attend later in the year.
    The court heard he had been contacted and denied being senior nurse that night.



    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...tes-Muslim-nurse-praying.html#ixzz1q8xVv7NM--


    So far the full facts/all evidence of the case remains unknown untill later in the year.

    btw - the patient was 87-year old -It is understood Mrs Griffiths died from a brain haemorrhage and pneumonia although this has yet to be confirmed.

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    Cause of death still not confirmed , and leaves the question whether calling an ambulance or anything the nurse could have done - would have saved the woman's life and for how long.

    There's no escaping death - even in nursing homes.


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    Senior Management + Company directors / City Financiers etc. often do. (even in America) - (wink)

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    - in some companies - devout muslim employees - schedule their prayer times to fit in with their lunch breaks - but that's also rare as most catch up with prayers after work.


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    Religion and healthcare aren't typically a good mix.

    Then again, religion and just about anything isn't usually a good mix.
     
  17. Dutch

    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Thank you for re-affirming my conclusions of the story: the junior nurse believed she was not supposed to act on her own (nursing home policy?) and only since this incident, she had discovered staff could override a nurse’s decision. So, the nurse in charge made a decision that finishing praying is more important, and the staff followed his decision.
     
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    Which would be a valid conclusion, expect that is NOT the policy of the nursing home.

    That twist didn't work out very well.

    He prayed for 5-10 minutes. The ambulance was called 4 hours later. Would it have changed anything had he responded right away? She passed away from pnemonia or a brain hemmorage. She was fine until 4 hours later, then an ambulance was called. So whether he was praying or not, would not have prevented the fall nor the pnemonia/hemmorage cause of death, uless he was praying for such a thing to happen maybe.

    It's sick that you are exploiting this womans death, and the loss of her family, to fuel your anti-Islamic hate agenda. Really, that is quite low.... No thoughts or prayers for the family, you rarely even mention the elderly woman who died... Instead the most important thing to you is whether he gets paid for praying or not...

    Haram, this is what hate can do to people.
     
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    By the way, Dutch, I couldn't help but notice, your only explanation for this:

    Seems to be "bump"...

    What does it say when you can't even explain your own obsessions? :)
     
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    We;; said OJL - Dutch lied and distorted the News report and when he's dishonesty was exposed , he then pathetically tried camouflageing it. His deceit didnt work.

    The fool , fooled no one + only succeeded in fooling himself.

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    Dutch read the article you posted - No it was NOT the nursing home policy.

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  21. Dutch

    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    WTF is wrong with you people? I've already answered this childish, fishing question. You do not like the answer? Glad to hear it.

    Again, for the slow ones - I spend a lot of time in muslim countries large and small, islamic and not, and do read business and culture news on muslims and islam everyday. My job performance depends on this knowledge.

    You call this an obsession? My employers call this staying ahead of competition.
     
  22. Dutch

    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No reason to get excited, is there? And I did question mark "nursing home policy", did not I? Meaning, I was guessing. Capiche?

    So, an average, run of the mill, Allah loving muslim nurse did not care to have his all-important prayer interrupted, so he instructed his charges to wait till he's trough talking to almighty, and only then went to inspect the patient in need.

    Did I get it right? :love:
     
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    Yes letting an old woman die to pray to an imaginary man in the sky and he's the one who is insensitive. :roll: Oh and which race is Islam again?
     
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    Exactly. It is likely that the outcome would not have been any different had the ambulance been called sooner.

    But all the nurses needed to do was call one themselves. I don't buy that they 'didn't know they could'. They must be brain dead not to have know something so simple!
     
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    The staff were not held down and prevented from picking up the phone, were they? No. They were capable of calling for the help themselves, but they decided to listen to a nurse who was not even there to see the situation for himself.

    The woman is dead because the junior staff failed to pick up the bloody phone.
     

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