PETA sues SeaWorld over 'enslavement' of killer whales

Do you feed the cat?

If so, then you are thus hindering it's natural instinct to go out and find food in it's natural environment, and are domesticating it. The cat knows where the food is (where you put the food) and very well won't leave for good unless you stop feeding it. So unless you want to continue to be a hypocrite, then stop feeding it.

 

The cat frequently catches birds, mice, voles and anything small and furry he can find, and leaves the evidence on my kitchen floor. I'm not preventing him exhibiting his natural behaviour, just supplementing his diet. If I stop feeding him he won't starve or pine away.

Furthermore the cat is not being forced to perform stupid tricks for reward, nor is it imprisoned.

If you want to look at Orcas take a boat trip to the open ocean.

 

I'd get behind this if the Orcas weren't such lazy 'intelligent' creatures and filed the lawsuit themselves...

 

Thus, you are domesticating him. If you truly believe what you say you do, then stop "supplementing" his diet.

 

I'm not domesticating him-he and his kind have been domesticated for thousands of years, so living with humans is normal behaviour for the domestic cat. I can't change that but I sure as hell can help change, educate and prevent morons from capturing wild animals and exploiting them for cash, at the expense of the freedom of the creature.

 

Sometimes, PETA strikes me as the animal rights equivalent of the Westboro Baptist Church.

 

...the head of PETA and all the supporters are on your side...they sure as hell aren't on mine...



Kabuki Joe

 

...really?...they strike me as the equivilent of the GAY MAFIA...


Kabuki Joe

 

You're right. They were put here to be eaten.

 

So basically, you are allowing an invasive exotic pest to go outside. House cats are not native to England, and you are allowing that exotic to wreak havok on the ecosystem of the English countryside.

 

So you are allowing an invasive exotic to wreak havoc on the native ecosystem....

 

I agree as well. Intelligent animals shouldn't be held in captivity

 

It does what it does, as did its ancestors who once lived in Britain-the big cats. Scotland also has a native wild cat.

 

Are these domesticated whales even suitable for life back in the wild? Seems kind of stupid to free Willy if he's just going to starve because his natural instincts to hunt and be aggressive have been systematically removed. Of course if PETA members are willing to retrain them to be killers again...

 

Whales, unlike the idiots who capture them, are intelligent creatures who are perfectly capable of re-adapting to their natural environment, and they have not been 'domesticated' but imprisoned. Open the doors to the sea and they'll swim out. Wild animals are released back to the wild daily after, for example, treatment for injury. They tend not to come back.

 

There is a significant difference between treating an animal for an injury and setting one free that has spent significant time in captivity in which violent tendencies, such as those required for hunting and killing are greatly curbed by using food as a reward. Way to miss the forest for the trees.

 

Wild is wild. You don't tame a wild animal-you might influence its behaviour temporarily but that's about as far as it goes. Enter a cage with a Lion you stopped feeding and guess what'll be for lunch?

 

Look I know hypocrisy, stupidity, and the total lack of common sense runs deep in liberals, so should you free these beasts and they go and starve, you will be the first ones whining about it. Your utter lack of fore-thought in lieu of instant gratification could be very detrimental to the very creatures you wish to 'save'.

 

...exactly!!!...very well put!!!...I WANT IT ALL RIGHT NOW!!!!!...sounds just like a spoiled brat child...


Kabuki Joe

 

Yeah, thanks for your input. Can always rely on you for sensible, well thought-out, and relevant posts...

 

Is that it? No response other than insult and a 'liberal' dig? Why am I not surprised? Perhaps you can explain what this 'instant gratification' is that I apparently crave, and which animals I am condemning to starvation. Thanks; I know I can rely on your co-operation.

 

The ancestor of the domestic cat was from the Middle East, not the UK. Domestic cats are implicated in the extinction of some bird species.
Anybody that loves wildlife would not be helping a cat to live in a semi-wild existence.


http://www.njaudubon.org/SectionConservation/NJASOpinion/AnArgumentforKeepingCatsIndoors.aspx

http://www.pwrc.usgs.gov/pif/pubs/M...09_Anthropogenic Impacts/Dauphine_1_PIF09.pdf

Also, the Scottish Highland cat is thought to be at the brink of extinction due to domestic cats.

 

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/earthnews/5077393/Super-sized-lions-roamed-UK-in-ice-age.html

The Scottish wild cat is so scarce, and lives in such remote, mountainous areas that its only predator is man; usually gamekeepers either shooting or snaring them so their precious, due for slaughter, game-birds aren't taken. Roadkill is another fate awaiting the cat. Domestic cats not so much-for a start they're a lot smaller than the wildcat, and a feral domestic cat would stand no chance against it. You really wouldn't want to mess with one-if you ever got lucky enough to spot one; there are only an estimated 400 breeding pairs in the whole of Scotland.

I'm also very aware of how birds fall prey to cats. Our rescue centres automatically spay or neuter their inmates in an attempt to keep the population down.

 

The real threat of the animal rights movement is they push for laws to eliminate animal research, which will make it impossible to test new drugs, and they push for laws for "humane treatment" of farm animals -- which will drive up the cost of meat and eggs so that many people will no longer be able to afford it.

 

Why should animals not be treated humanely?