PF's ONLY 2018 Swedish general elections thread

I don't mean to single you out but I had to start somewhere so I just jumped into the middle of it and landed on your post.

It frustrates me that people do not seem to understand what "is", what "was", and that they listen intently to the words of those who don't know the difference themselves.

Sweden's form of Socialism is a success because it most certainly was a success while it was implemented. What we see today is NOT Sweden's form of Socialism. This is post-CIA-assassination-infiltrated-kissing-Washington's-backside Sweden. We didn't lose our grip on the success of our nation because of "Sweden's form of Socialism". We lost it all because "Sweden's form of Socialism" has been wrecked.

 

DONE.
Feels good!

 

I finally decided not to vote.

It was a difficult choice to make with a lot of back-and-forth with advanced calculations to find the best voting strategy and my last minute solution is to stay at home and boil coffee to enjoy the freakshow from afar with.

My predictions tells me that no matter how I vote, we will have four more years of Stefan Löfvén as PM (potentially Magdalena Andersson).

 

Centern, Liberalerna and Vänstern will cuck for Socialdemokraterna and - like so many times before - Moderaterna will bow down to lick their boots too. Sverigedemokraterna will become the biggest party, but not big enough not to be dependent on a coallition. A coallition no one else seems to want.

AfS, KLP and MED are all very interesting parties, but voting for any of them would be useless since none of them will gain a significantly high support.
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Considering the fact that you were going to vote "M" I can honestly say that I am thankful you are so coffee sugen.

Ouch!

 

I eventually did cast a, literally, last second vote for Afs.

 

Current polls:
Socialdemokraterna: 28, 7%
Sverigedemokraterna: 18, 6%
Moderaterna: 18, 2%
Centerpartiet: 9, 2%
Vänsterpartiet: 8, 1%
Kristdemokraterna: 6, 5%
Liberalerna: 5, 0%
Miljöpartiet: 4, 2%
Others: 1, 6%

 

What's a PF?

 

You called it right. Do you want to know what I think? I think .......................

 

Political Fiasco.

 

At least Schyman got her testicles twisted. That's something good.

 

That is always something.

Anyways, I am actually rather shocked by the level of complete ignorance from the voters; how Green Party still has enough support to earn a few seats in parliament is beyond comprehension. Even worse is that the support for Social Democrats is still close to 30%.

I mean, I knew it was bad, but not this bad and I also thought SD would manage at least 20%.

Very even result between the two blocks and it seems my predictions will become reality.

 

Final results:
Social Democrats: 28,4%
Green Party: 4,3%
Left Party: 7,9%
Centre Party: 8,6%
Liberal Party: 5,5%
Moderate Party: 19,8%
Christian Democrats: 6, %
Sweden Democrats: 17,6%

Seats in parliament
Social Democrats: 101
Green Party: 15
Left Party: 28
Centre Party: 31
Liberal Party: 19
Moderate Party: 70
Christian Democrats: 23
Sweden Democrats: 62

Red-Green coallition: 144
The Alliance coallition: 143

Analysis: Loooooooool. Sandbox-parliament awaits. My bet is that after a few weeks of figjting, C will join the Red-Green coallition and give us a Social Democratic PM. :yes:

 

I have to say, I have a lot of respect for European democracies. America could never handle that many political parties. I mean we would have to actually learn what each party stands for and actually understand the issues instead of picking the opposite party of the people we hate.

 

Don't be so quick to flatter us. Most Swedes haven't got a clue what any of the parties stand for and they prefer to vote with either blood ("my family has always voted x") or by heart ("it feels right"). Mass media plays a big role in manipulating the voters and the OSCE has a lot to say about our system.

Additionally, the huge supply of parties often - just like this year - result in a situation where Left Wing and Right Wing have to reach agreements to be able to put up even a half-functioning government. The last election (2014) we had the infamous December Agreement where we, basically, stood without a government for four months (Sep-Dec). But, instead of having a re-election, the opposition on the Right decided to bow down for the Left, pulling off a gigantic, seven-party coallition with the sole purpose of bullying SD; outnumbering them and taking out all of their influence despite them being the third largest party.

Trust me, it is catastrophic.

 

I agree. I am also very bewildered. I am trying not to think about it and i expect any day for a scandal to erupt over corruption in the ballot boxes.

 

Somebody once said that successful Swedes are extremely humble except at winning the Lottery.

 

Damn. Another fantasy dashed like a bottle against pavement. I guess us humans still have some evolving to do.

 

Well, wasn't it Churchill who said that the best argument against democracy is a five minute conversation with the average voter?

I mean, I am not better myself. As not too big of a fan of voting, I had planned to stay at home. But, I did a last minute consideration and went to do it anyways. My pick was literally based on one policy and one policy only; immigration (the rest of the programme is pure and utter garbage to me). I knew a party of their size would never gain support of any significance, but my hope was that they would at least gain around 2% and then earn some media attention resulting in a well-needed media debate. But, as for now, it seems they did a catastrophic election.

I can't wait to see how many votes they got in my district. If it says 0, we can be sure there has been cheating.

 

The results of this election have left me traumatized and depressed so I am out of here. See you guys on some other thread. Bye.

 

Yes, and we would then vote in our own little ideological boxes, never knowing how all of those parties might form up into a coalition, rather than the American version where you vote for the coalition and know pretty much what you are getting when you vote.

 

Here's more:

 

I've long believed that in order to participate in such an important constituent part of the democratic process, as is a general election, all prospective electors should be subjected to an intelligence test before being allowed to cast their ballot. Anyone with an IQ below 80 shouldn't be allowed to take part. In the case of Sweden? - well the stable door was left open and the horse has bolted, so this result is essentially irrelevant because the consequences cannot possibly be reversed without enforced repatriations. Even now, with the benefit of hindsight, if there were to be another potential influx into Sweden, there would still be plenty of brain-dead demonstrators with their 'Refugees are welcome here' banners.

 

I am sincerly fed up with party politics and genuinely disgusted by this whole campaign. I am so glad it is all over, but before it is all over, the policians have to form a government and due to the even election result, it will be a big circus and the monster just won't yet leave me alone.

A few reflections and summaries on the aftermath are that;
* Socialdemokraterna are both cocky and self-righteous; they've announced that the only condition for a coallition with Alliansen is if they accept Stefan Löfvén to continue his mission as the nation's PM.
* Sverigedemokraterna has invited Moderaterna and Kristdemokraterna to negotiations, but the invite has been declined. In other words, M has said "no, thanks" to a coallition with the only party that can guarantee a government with a Moderate Party PM.
* Liberalerna and Centerpartiet want to remain as members of Alliansen.

Sverigedemokraterna will certainly vote against an S-government and will be more friendly towards an M-government. However, SD are now even stronger than they were previous election and if all parties choose to put them in the cold again, they can just vote against every proposition, making it impossible to rule the nation.

I still believe that this will eventually result in L and C backing up S to give them the PM-post that will be taken by someone else - likely a female - with a prominent role in the party as Löfvén resigns, either by choice or due to that ambigious, juridical technicality that is currently being discussed in the news.

 

One just has to love how they call Sweden Democrats a "far right party" when they are basically Sanders-like Democrats. They want a gigantic welfare-apparatus and are against privatising its components, they want a country "safe for all", a saftey that -they believe - should be administrated by government, their form of "nationalism" is one where every citizen - no matter race or background - should take pride in Sweden because by doing so, they become Swedes (pretty basic, conventional, milktoast Americanism) and they also talk a lot about "protecting the weak" such as pensioners, women and the unemployed and are not very keen on lowering taxes.