Pitchfork-wielding protesters descend on wealthy Hamptons estates

Well... the Civil Rights Act of 1964 and Voting Rights Act of 1965 did create a very important and very necessary establishment of total legal EQUALITY for all American citizens -- paving the way for a truly 'color-blind' society!

So.... Now for the last 55 years, blacks have been the 'equal' of everyone else. But the hatred that so many of them feel for anyone who ISN'T black rages on. The whole idea was to INTEGRATE them and for all of us to live in legal peace, prosperity, and happiness. Why do blacks refuse to do that...? They're angry because they think they are treated in a 'different' way from everyone else, but what we see is that they INSIST on it....

Consider: nearly all of these recent incidents involving black anarchy, looting, arson, and violence in the cities have been directly related to BLACKS BREAKING THE LAW AND FIGHTING AGAINST LAWFUL ARREST BY THE POLICE! What are the cops supposed to do? Are they supposed to say, "Oh, you're black?! Then it's OK if you pass counterfeit money, drive drunk and pass out in your car on private property, fight against arrest", etc., etc., etc. Isn't it obvious that this is Bullshit?! Not to the America-hating Left....

In Minneapolis, one (ONE) ex-policeman will stand charges for killing a black suspect by using excessive, lethal force against him while trying to arrest him. That one (ONE) ex-policeman will be tried for various kinds of murder, and if convicted of any crimes, he must endure the punishment and consequences. Good! That's what's known as JUSTICE! But thousands of people running amok in the streets -- looting, burning, pillaging, and committing numerous acts of violence of their own is NOT 'justice'... it's more illegal BULLSHIT!

Last question: Do blacks really believe that no white suspect has ever had a 'choke hold' put on him? Do they seriously believe that?!

 

I answered that question for you once and asked you the same about Democrats. You never answered me. Let me repeat my question AGAIN. What have the Democrats done for blacks lately (last ten years or so)?

Trump pushed for and passed the "First Step Act" to largely undo what Biden did to blacks in prison sentencing.

Biden Defends '94 Crime Bill as Trump Rights Its Wrongs

“We do everything but hang people for jaywalking in this bill,” then-Sen. Biden said in 1992, urging its passage.
Indeed.
The 1994 crime bill led to mass incarceration rates across America – especially within African American and Latino communities — by incentivizing states to raise mandatory minimum sentencing and build new prisons. It included a “three strikes” provision that dictated life sentences for criminals after two or more prior convictions, including drug crimes.
In the early 1970s, about 100 out of every 100,000 U.S. residents were incarcerated, whereas after the bill was passed, that number spiked to 387, 478, and 655 per 100,000 residents in the years 1994, 2000, and 2016, respectively, according to an analysis by the Washington Post."
"A year after the bill passed, the number of inmates who received post-secondary education plummeted 44%, according to a study published by Ithaka S+R, a higher education nonprofit.
Democrats and the president alike have chastised Biden for the role he played in shepherding the legislation through Congress as chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee, and for continuing to defend it this day.
Sen. Cory Booker (D-N.J), called the bill “a stunning mistake”; Sen. Kamala Harris (D-Calif.) said it contributed to “mass incarceration in our country”; and South Bend, Ind., Mayor Pete Buttigieg commented he hoped those who were behind the ’94 crime bill “would do it differently if they had a chance to do it again.”"

"President Trump is slowly but surely righting the wrongs of that 1994 legislation. Last year, he signed the bipartisan First Step Act, which revised sentencing laws, expanded opportunities for inmates to pursue vocational training and earn time credits to apply toward early release.
The measure was supported by the editorial boards of the Washington Post, USA Today, the Wall Street Journal and the Philadelphia Inquirer. It was supported by Democratic presidential contenders Booker and Harris, along with Sens. Sheldon Whitehouse (D-R.I.) and Dick Durbin (D-Ill.).
This year, the White House is focusing on the Second Step Act, which will feature an $88 million request for prisoner social reentry programs.
In addition to the new legislation, the White House’s 2020 budget proposed more than $500 million for various federal programs to help inmates succeed following their release, and this year, the Department of Education is providing $28 million to expand a Pell grant pilot program to help eligible incarcerated Americans pursue postsecondary education."

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/a...e_bill_as_trump_rights_its_wrongs_140645.html


Let's talk unemployment.

Black unemployment rate falls to a record low
https://www.cnn.com/2019/09/06/economy/black-unemployment-rate/index.html



Let's talk school choice and education. The Democrat politicians are against poor minority kids getting the same schooling that rich kids get. They oppose voucher programs that pay for better private schooling for minority children.

Voucher programs result in higher test scores for private school blacks

Higher test scores achieved by black students transferring to private schools may be the effect of vouchers, a Harvard University professor reported yesterday.

Scores among blacks who switched from public to private schools were 3.3 points higher than their public school counterparts on combined math and reading tests.

Vouchers have a more dramatic effect on black students than on white students, who already have plenty of school choices and don’t seem to benefit from the vouchers, according to Harvard professor Paul Peterson.

“School choice is driven by access to housing and can be a lot more advantageous for whites than for blacks,” said Peterson, who presented his findings last night as part of Boston University’s Institute on Race and Social Divisions workshop series. “Parents with kids in private school are much happier.”

Peterson’s research found that students who attend private schools generally like school better than students who attend public schools. They also happen to like their teachers more.

https://dailyfreepress.com/2001/03/...higher-test-scores-for-private-school-blacks/


PRIVATE-SCHOOL VOUCHERS AIDING BLACKS: STUDY

Black students who attend private schools through the city’s privately funded voucher program scored substantially higher on standardized math and reading tests than their counterparts in public schools, a new study shows.

But the same analysis found no noticeable difference between Hispanic students in the voucher program and those in public schools over the same period, school years 1997 through 2000.

Black students in parochial and private schools scored a cumulative nine percentage points better on the math and reading tests than students from the public schools who took the exams.

The significant disparity surprised researchers from MATHEMATICA and Harvard University, who jointly conducted the analysis. They were equally baffled that there was no difference among Hispanic students.

“It does suggest that African-American kids can benefit by switching from a public to a private school,” said project director David M

https://nypost.com/2002/02/20/private-school-vouchers-aiding-blacks-study/


And yet Democrats hate vouchers for blacks. They want to keep you on the plantation.



I answered your question so now answer mine. Again, what have the Democrats done for you lately

 

More. Had to split this post up because of the volume of content. This is a good article from a left leaning web site.

Joe Biden is a Racist Who Loves Police Brutality

"Biden’s history of enthusiastic racism stretches back decades. From the moment he entered the U.S. Senate in the early 1970s, he vocally opposed busing to achieve school desegregation."

"Biden represented Delaware in the Senate, a state that essentially refused to desegregate schools through a combination of hair-splitting laws and white parents shifting their children to private schools en masse. Private school enrollment in Delaware is now among the highest in the nation, at 17.6 percent in Biden’s hometown of Wilmington — the vast majority of them white. Meanwhile, disproprotionately Black public schools are systematically starved of funds. This kind of de facto segregation is exactly what Joe Biden promoted in his anti-busing campaign. "

"|Perhaps the most egregious example of Biden’s racist use of power is 1994’s Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act, the crime bill he wrote and continues to support vocally to this day. The bill is a laundry list of the worst aspects of the mass incarceration state. It led to a boom in the number of police officers and prisons, lengthened prison sentences, and created financial incentives to keep people in jail. It created 60 new death penalty offenses as well as the infamous “three strikes and you’re out” rule, which inflicted a life sentence for almost any crime, even ones considered very minor, if there were two prior convictions for “serious” or “violent” crimes."

"Biden was an enthusiastic participant in this tradition through his friendship and fruitful working relationship with noted segregationist and vile racist Strom Thurmond, the senator from South Carolina.
“I disagreed deeply with Strom on the issue of civil rights, and on many other issues, but I watched him change,” Biden said as he eulogized his racist friend in 2003. However, it’s not clear that they disagreed all that much. They worked together early in Biden’s Senate career on the 1983 Comprehensive Forfeiture Act, which increased the use of civil asset forfeiture by police departments across the country. Civil forfeiture is legalized theft, allowing cops to seize and sell any property they say is involved in a crime, even if the owner is never even arrested or convicted. It is used mostly against working class and poor people, especially if they are Black."

https://www.leftvoice.org/joe-biden-is-a-racist-who-loves-police-brutality

 

It's a way to get to Marxism, where everybody will be healthy, happy, and prosperous.

 

In theory, but not reality. Racism is not in your face as it was before both of those bills, it is more subtle now.

It is hard for you to understand because you are not black, you don't see it so in your mind you think it doesn't exist and that is the problem.

Don't forget all the whites who were among those black folks during what you call anarchy, looting, arson and violence. As a matter of fact it becoming more and more known that the arson was by whites. So you think it is ok to choke a man to death who is in custody or shot a man in his back who is lying face down handcuffed. You really don't see a problem in all that.

Trying to arrest him? He was already cuffed.

That is where the problem comes in, in many of those cases they DON'T FACE JUSTICE. Why? Because all you have to do is stack the jury with folks who have the mindset of the sheetwearers and that cop will walk out scott free to harrass, beat, brutalize and murder again.

Not at the rate that we see black men put in choke holds.

 

What is your source for the rates are for choke holds?

I watched Steven Crowder/Joe Rogan demonstrate choke holds (and take out their subjects without harm in a matter of a second or two) and from that I believe it is a safe maneuver. Unfortunately it looks like it would a take a TON of practice to become proficient in it (hundreds of hours of training). A properly executed choke hold does not impinge on a persons ability to breathe in the least.

Check out Rogan taking out a guy in 2 seconds with a choke hold. It is almost instant and causes no harm.

 

So democrats... your baiting entitlement mentality is coming home to roost.

Have fun with that.

 

If they go to 3 of the 5, I will give them a donation & I am a right wing independent.

My 3 favorite would be.....

#1 - Nancy Pelosi
#2 - Maxine Waters
#3 - Clinton’s “tempted to list Pelosi again”

 

You didn't really answer my question, you gave me the right wing talking points.

How many Republicans voted against that bill?

How many prisoners have been released or had their sentences reduced?

What does this act do for black folks in state prisons since that is where most black prisoners are.

That started under Pres. Obama in 2012.

I can't argue with school vouchers in some cases they help if you have access to them.

It's funny that Republicans make that claim, but when black folks start moving in predominate white neighborhoods which have better schools we see white flight take place. Why is that?

I will admit Democrats don't really start talking about black issues until election time, but in the overall picture of things Republicans have done nothing for black folks either. Republicans are in denial when it comes to many issues that effective the black community as a whole. You talk about keeping black folks on the plantation is that why Republicans put that moron Tim Scott up for a so called Police Reform Bill. Trump has shown us that republicans don't want any police reform, because they need them to be able to handle up on black folks in any manner they wish to keep us in line.

 

Sorry, we have seen too many folks murdered with a choke hold. So showing a video of one man isn't going to fly.

 

To be honest, I am not that invested in this. As somebody who will never resist arrest, this will never apply to me and mine. It does not bother me in the least that felons who resist arrest get killed, not even a little bit.

If you guys want to live in anarchy or without police, you do you boo. I simply don't give a damn about what happens to Democrat controlled areas anymore. Let them burn it to the ground, let them riot, let them loot, I could give a **** less. The VERY HEAVILY armed conservative areas have been the safest places in America over the past few 3 months. We are doing things right, thank you very much. If the cops are dirty in Democratic areas, take it up with your leaders, that is a you problem. You get what you vote for. Try holding your local politicians accountable for once.

 

Do you expect everyone here to post an entire article? Lets hear from the folks who click on links provided by an OP that ended up with malware on their computers! I for one have never gotten malware from a link here.

 

How many Republicans voted against that bill?

The bill was introduced to the Senate by Senator Dan Sullivan, a Republican. There were 12 Republicans that voted against and 40 that voted for in the Senate. There were 47 Democrats that voted for in the Senate.
In the House there were 182 Republican votes for and 36 that voted against. There were 17 Republicans that didn't vote at all.
In the House there were 176 Democrat votes for and none against. There were 21 Democrats that didn't vote at all.
The bill was signed by Trump.
https://www.senate.gov/legislative/...fm?congress=115&session=2&vote=00271#position
http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2018/roll448.xml

How many prisoners have been released or had their sentences reduced?
This data is from a year ago so I am sure the counts are higher.

First Step Act Update: Over 1,600 Sentences Reduced, 3,000 Prisoners Released
"As of late July 2019, the federal Bureau of Prisons (BOP) had released over 3,000 prisoners under the First Step Act, a landmark criminal justice reform measure signed in December 2018 by President Trump. [See: PLN, April 2019, p.1; Jan. 2019, p.34]. The law also resulted in the reduction of 1,691 federal prison sentences, according to the U.S. Sentencing Commission (USSC)."


That started under Pres. Obama in 2012

It continued after Obama in spite of all the doom and gloom predictions from the left that Trump was going to destroy the economy. Pelosi said it was gong to be "Armageddon".

Remember when Obama said the job situation wasn't going to get any better? He said Trump will never be able to bring jobs back. He asked if Trump had a "magic wand". Obama was actually admitting that he thought the economy couldn't get any better than it was at that point.

"During a PBS town hall that aired Wednesday, Obama referenced Trump's promise to bring back jobs to the United States when talking about manufacturing.
“Well, how exactly are you going to do that? What exactly are you going to do? There’s no answer to it," Obama said.
"He just says, 'Well, I’m going to negotiate a better deal.' Well, what, how exactly are you going to negotiate that? What magic wand do you have? And usually the answer is, he doesn’t have an answer.”"
https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/281936-obama-to-trump-what-magic-wand-do-you-have


I can't argue with school vouchers in some cases they help if you have access to them.

They absolutely help and they actually help black students more than whites as proven in the links I posted before. Biden was against vouchers. That was also included in my previous post. Democrats fight the voucher programs as they hurts the teacher's unions. The union is more important than the education of black children in the eyes of Democrat politicians getting donations from the teacher's unions.

I have answered your questions AGAIN so AGAIN, what has the Democrats done for blacks lately?

 

Ya know, 'brutha, you and I have been 'sparring' here in the Forum for years, and sometimes I honestly think we're so close to being in agreement on fundamental issues, but then it almost seems that you want to push away. You say things like, "It is hard for you to understand because you are not black, you don't see it so in your mind you think it doesn't exist and that is the problem."

I wish I could just get you to understand one thing I'm trying to get across -- that what we marched for, and protested for, and bitched for, as young Americans way back in the last 1960's was for people -- ALL people -- of ALL races -- to be treated equally before the law! We fought for, and thought we had WON a "colorblind society", a noble, wonderful society that would be an example for all the rest of the world! It is not necessary or even desirable for us to look through the 'lens' of being 'black', or 'white', 'Latino', 'Oriental', or anything else but one thing -- BEING LAW-ABIDING CITIZENS OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA! Nothing else matters!

You say that white people like me simply CANNOT understand black people. Then, please -- explain what it is exactly that black people want?! We have to figure this out, 'brutha, or we're eventually going to have a red-hot race war -- a REAL shoot-'em-up race war, and black people are going to be the big losers. None of us want that! Tell us, and start a new thread devoted to the topic if you like... I'll be there for you. WE WHO ARE NOT BLACK NEED TO UNDERSTAND EXACTLY WHAT YOU THINK THE MATTER REALLY IS -- and, HOW WE CAN FIX IT USING LAWS, AND THE UNITED STATES CONSTITUTION, AS WRITTEN AND AMENDED. Please!

 

it is "taking" the product of the taxpayers labor using lawful government force, OBAMA provided the answer on a silver platter

if you defend your 'constitution' you will offend the brutha.

 

@superbadbrutha has been a respected, long-term member of this Forum community. I truly do want to hear what he has to say about what American blacks REALLY want, and to tell us what is REALLY driving so much unending black anger in this country.

I simply cannot understand it, and I'm an old guy who was always strongly in favor of Civil Rights and total EQUALITY between the races, way back in the ancient days when I was a teenager. I thought we had finally defeated REAL, destructive racism in this country by the beginning of the 1970's, but the hatred, the fear, and the mutual loathing and distrust slowly grew even worse -- not better!

Think: by the time I graduated from high school, we had finally gotten rid of "Jim Crow" and replaced segregation of the races with The Civil Rights Act of 1964 and The Voting Rights Act of 1965. TOTAL LEGAL EQUALITY BEFORE THE LAW! What could go wrong? And yet, somehow, blacks grew even more angry than ever... and here we are in 2020, ready to have another Civil War!

Now we've got a situation in the United States that has the potential to be far more dangerous than anything I have ever seen develop between the races, and I'm as serious as I can be. I won't go into all the possible hypothetical scenarios -- but they're BAD... very, very BAD. We've got to figure this thing out, once and for all.

 

taxpayers pay for lawful government force, it will not be bad for civilians only the militants.

these blacks want 40 acres and a mule and it is unconstitutional, obama deviously tried to obtain the product of the white man's labour through illicit increases in welfare expenditures.

congress appears to be passing a law for reparations, but President Trump will veto it on arrival on constitutional grounds.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forty_acres_and_a_mule

 

These protesters are wealthier than most of the worlds population. Maybe they should see pitchforks out in front of their homes!

 

Its absolutely terrifying:

 

Deleted a post duplicate... due to something in the Forum's software. (?)

 

Well, @superbadbrutha , in my Post #115, I asked you several days ago, as nicely as I know how, to tell us what exactly it is that Black Americans REALLY want that has not already been guaranteed them, BY LAW, for over 55 years by the Civil Rights Act of 1964 and the Voting Rights Act of 1965. All the old 'segregation' crap from the past is long gone -- and good riddance! Blacks, and everybody else, is guaranteed EQUALITY... nothing more, and nothing less!

But, as we see, American Blacks are still so terribly unhappy and feeling as though everything is worse than before.

I asked you, as a Black American, to tell us what the REALITY of all this is because you said in one of your posts that "It is hard for you to understand because you are not black, you don't see it so in your mind you think it doesn't exist and that is the problem."

Now, again, I ask you to open up and TELL us what it is that Black Americans are SO unhappy about! And if you really have NOTHING to say to us in reply, then that surely speaks VOLUMES....

Suggestion: if you really want to gain traction with the majority of Americans who are NOT Black, then explain your logic with something that is based on the Constitution and the American LAW -- not on making heroes and martyrs out of two men who had committed criminal acts -- one by fighting with police after resisting arrest while being busted for DWI on private property, and the other for the FEDERAL CRIME of passing counterfeit money!

 

bad example, joey let him hit his head on the floor after choking him unconscious

 

Well, @superbadbrutha , more than a week has gone by since I asked you to tell us all WHAT IT IS THAT BLACK AMERICANS REALLY WANT! See my post above.... What is it that you want besides total EQUALITY?! Black Americans are fully equal before the law and have all the rights and privileges accorded by Law and the Constitution to all Americans, regardless of race, creed, color, etc.

So, one more time I ask you in sincerity -- WHAT IS IT THAT AMERICAN BLACKS WANT? WHAT CONSTITUTIONAL OR LEGAL RIGHT DO WHITE, LATINO, OR ORIENTAL AMERICANS HAVE THAT AMERICAN BLACKS DO NOT HAVE?!

Do you really have nothing to say? After all this unending blather about "racism" in the United States, do you have nothing but silence?